10.4mm Swiss Vetterli


#1

Apparently the headstamp on this Swiss Vetterli indicates that it was manufactured by Kynoch for the Canadian company Caverhill-Learmont, Montreal.
Why would a British company be manufacturing this cartridge for a Canadian company?


#2

Probably for commercial sales. Winchester loaded .41 Swiss rimfire up to about 1940.

Apparently a large number of rifles in this caliber had entered the surplus market in the early 1900s and there was a demand for ammo for them.


#3

Here is another example of .41 (10.4mm) Swiss ammunition for the surplus rifle market, Leon Beaux - Milano production for Winfield Arms Corporation, Los Angeles, California, with brass case:
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Brian


#4

Jim, John is right, in 1908 Caverhill, Learmont & Co. imported 14,000 Swiss Army Vetterli repeating rifles and were offered to jobbers at a very low price (as cheap as $2.00 each). The Canadian government was concerned about the sale of these military rifles for sporting purposes and banned further imports after January 1909. However, its sale was not prohibited and this company continued offering these until the last stock was advertised late in 1911. Regards, Fede.


#5

Thank you gents.


#6

Bannerman of New York was the biggest dealer/importer of Swiss Rimfire Vetterli rifles, offering them as “complete” rifles, or as “Farm Guns” ( Woodwork cut back, Magazine tube eliminated, and still able to carry Two rounds, one in chamber and one in lifter).

Remington and Winchester both made “.41 Swiss” ammo in both Ball and wood-saboted Shot versions until 1940-41, (WW II) when all “obsolete” type cartridges were discontinued.

I have one of the Farm Guns, as they were exported by Bannerman to various parts of the world ( Down Under incl) both before and after WW I.

Doc AV