10.75mm Russian Berdan


Can anybody identify the ‘y’ shaped symbol on this Russian cartridge please?


It’s not “y”, it’s letter “h”


Thanks Hammer…but what does ‘TCH’ mean?


Actually, I’m not sure anymore…
It still could be Ч "sh"
Ч could mean also number "90"
Maybe some Russian could help better.


Well, it is weather “H” nor “Sh” it is a “Ch”.
Should indicate the manufacturer.


Ч is a sound like in “cherry”, I guess it is the 1st letter of manufacturer.


Given the round, most likely the Russian “ch” or “che” - as sks noted, this is pronounced, typically, like the lead consonant sound of cherry or cheese. The references I have at hand say it is an unidentified Russian arsenal.

I don’t know bupkus here, but just to throw some possible sand in the gears, I’m wondering if perhaps this letter is used in other Slavic languages, e.g., Bulgarian, Serb? And, if so, could the round have originated from a non-Russian source?

Can any of our Russian contributers identify the source? Was there an arsenal at Chelyabinsk or another such place in this era?



This round is typical Russian.

The correct caliber of this cartridge is 10.67mm or in original Russian designation “4.2 lines”. Or as most of you would say .42. (same with the Russian S&W revolver)


This is really typical russian Berdan cartridge 10,6x58R or as per russian military designation “4,2 lines rifle cartridge”.

The markings is also not uncommon:

cartridge was made at Saint Peterburg Cartridge Plant
8+4 = 1884 year
III - it’s a period of manufacturing (september-december)


Thanks, treshkin!!