11.4x50R Scheiben


#1

Looking through my stuff I found the following:


Rim: 0.580" (14.74mm)
base: 0.513" (13.03mm)
Mouth: 0.478 (12.13mm)
Bullet: 0.467"(?) 11.85mm (?) Bullet badly corroded
Case Length: 1.97" (50.00mm)
Cartridge Length: 2.56" (65.13mm)

Base on “Cartridge Cases” by Andersen, Andersen and Stromstad it appears to be a 11.4x50R Scheiben (Beaumont). I’m not familiar with this cartridge. Is that what it is? If so what can you tell me about the 11.4X50R.
Thanks

Paul


#2

Based on the dimensions given plus manufacture by Egestorff, I suspect that this is a 11.5x50R Werder with the shorter neck (MB101 in European Sporting Cartridges).

The 11.25-11.5mmx50 MB types are hard to separate but Egestorff never listed the 11.4x50R Scheiben (Beaumont = MB99), only Lorenz/DM-K/DWM listed that calibre - has a lower shoulder.

These MB calibres where mainly used in Target shooting.


#3

WBD, thanks for the information. “Cartridge Cases” by Andersen, Andersen and Stromstad show the Scheiben with an Egestorff
headstamp. That’s why I went with the Scheiben over the 11.5x50R Werder. Just goes to show you can’t always believe every thing you read in books.

Thanks again,
Paul


#4

“Cartridge Cases” by Andersen, Andersen and Stromstad is a very useful reference but like all books on cartridges (including mine) it has quite a few errors although COTW still takes the prize followed by Datig’s. We all make the mistake of repeating others errors.

Your ID as a 11.4x50R (see it in the DWM 1904 catalog) is very reasonable and as I said before, all the 11.25-11.5mmx50 MB types are hard to separate but it appears that only Lorenz/DM-K/DWM listed that calibre.