14 Gauge shotshell by F. Joyce & Co


#1

Can anyone tell me any more information about this shotshell? I am interested in age, rarity etc.

Thanks for any info.


#2

Harding [British Companies volume] doesn’t give a date for that headstamp, nor does he show it, however he does show a similar wording & layout [pg 29] but with serifs & lists it with a copper head & the case marked Watertight Gastight. This with the copper head would be early, as pin fires of Joyce’s exist with a copper head. [I have a 14 bore PF with a raised F. JOYCE LONDON headstamp showing a copper head, but no serifs to the letters]. The copper head is uncommon with English pin fires & the “ELEY LONDON 1861” dated headstamp also has a copper head.

The paper being plain brown would be an inexpensive hull & was perhaps sold for reloading to game keepers, as not a Joyce over shot card.

Again according to Harding: Fredrick Joyce was born in 1833 & was killed in the factory 14 Oct. 1878.

Harding goes on to say: In 1888 a company entitled F. Joyce & Company Ltd was formed.

My thoughts/guesses (Wild A) are; this shell would be ca 1888 to 1895 or so, again as a guess, mostly due to the low base, cheap hull paper & looks to be a BP load

It’s a headstamp I don’t have, so should you come across another… (in any bore)


#3

Thanks for the reply Pete.

It does appear that this shell is loaded with black powder due to the corrosion around the top of the brass base.