28-30 Bore query


#1

I have a shotgun round I can find no info on ,all brass case with headstamp NOBEL’s No 28 ELEY BALLISTITE all prety easy so far, now the case is reduced from about 1/3 from the base to the neck to .576 the head is .620 (looks like a smaller version of the 12-14 Greener police gun round ) at the neck you can see the cream coloured paper liner which is turned over to hold in the plain White wad ,what do I have ? I have called it a 28-30 bore ,I know there are other reduced bore shotshells but can find nothing on this one Thanks Randy


#2

Incredible Randy - you answered my question before I asked it!! Last year found this Kynoch drawing - not my collecting area - but it’s an unusual calibre designation so want to know more. Now I know it exists - any chance of a picture? Would appear then to be a special calibre for Alex Martin - the Scottish gunsmiths?? Any more info out there? Regards JohnP-C.[/img]


#3

Hi John , thanks for the info, I actually traded this round about 10 years ago from a friend in England he had no idea what it was and the only one he had seen ,I din’t have any way of sending a picture myself but I have a friend who may be able to do it for me I will see what I can arrange , Randy


#4


Is thiat your shell ?


#5

Hello Jean-pierre ,it certainly looks like it ,what is the headstamp on yours do you have any more info thanks


#6

This kind of round can also have different hstp (Greener, and so on)


#7

This round is unfortunately not mine.
I am looking for this round for my collection, either with Nobel hstp, either with another headstamp (if possible like a NPE and not a loaded round).
If somebody has one to trade , I have a lot of good shotshells as duplicates.
Thanks


#8

FWIW… I believe those are 2" mortar cartridges.


#9

??? !!!
You think they are 2" mortar ctges ??? !!!

JP


#10

Sorry… should read more before engaging mouth…

Most of the 28 Ga Balllistite cartridges I have seen are used in igniting 2" Mortar rounds. Their hulls are paper.
This one appears metallic…

Sorry for the confusion.

“My mom says I am a nice kid… just not that bright :D”


#11

The mortar shells I know are straight, with a paper tube, and have no recess in diameter.
The French ones and the Italian ones (at least the ones I have in my collection) have an increase of diameter tube close to the base in order of not be able to chamber the round in a shotgun.
Do you collect mortar shells ?
JP


#12

I have the same Nobels 28 ga Ballistite necked NPE shell in my collection. As I recall, mine has a yellow paper liner. Total length of the shell is 2.287". Unfortunately, I have only the one.


#13

[quote=“Guy Hildebrand”]I
Unfortunately, I have only the one.[/quote]

Hi !
I found some since my first post;
Byt still looking with the one with Greener hstp.
JP