30-40 Krag UMC Scott Patent


#1

Hi, All…

One of the acquisitions from SLICS is interesting…

#1: UMC Krag case for three bullet Scott round, without a sleeve
#2: UMC Krag case for three bullet Scott round, with the sleeve (found at SLICS)
#3: Same as #2, with sleeve sectioned
#4: The “typical” W.R.A.Co. “2 bullet” cartridge case.

Scott played around with things…it is interesting to note that all I have ever seen are “solid” swaged on sleeves, the UMC cartridge case found at SLICS has a sleeve resembling a tapered piece of thin wall tubing, and was once probably swaged to the case, but is now “loose”

The drawings are 2X size, headstamps are 2.5X size

Randy


#2

Interesting Randy, and totally new to me!
So what was Mr Scott’s rational for stacking bullets upon each other? Seems like a sloppy excuse not to reach for a more effective weapon loaded with a shotshell full of buckshot!

Shotmeister


#3

Hey, Chief…

The Scott patent cartridges were some of the first “duplex” and “triplex” cartridges…right around 1900…But…you have a point about the buckshot…

Randy


#4

Here’s a picture of the ‘typical’ round to accompany the post. Note the different powder charge between the projectiles to aid separation. In the main powder charge there is a loop of heavy paper. Does anyone know what purpose this served?

Paul


#5

You can download this patent here: depositfiles.com/files/au3dgez3i


#6

2moutrage…Yes, but…you see that the patent, just like those filed in the US PTO, shows only the solid sleeve, not the tubular one…

Randy


#7

Ok. The second attempt

depositfiles.com/files/5y8w13uun


#8

Is that powder between the two bullets? How would it ignite? What would be its purpose?


#9

“Note the different powder charge between the projectiles to aid separation.”

From that same posting.