30 calibre dummy cartridge


#1

I bought this recently and I wonder exactly what it is that I’ve acquired. It’s a dummy cartridge, chromed all over with 6 flutes, an empty Berdan pocket and a single knurled ring between the extractor groove and the start of the flutes. The bullet, which is slightly magnetic is held in place with a heavy coned crimp. the headstamp is ‘K’ at 12 o’clock with ‘.30’ at 6 o’clock.


Is there any significance to the knurling? Is there a type designation? Any idea when it might have been made and for what?

Happy collecting, Peter


#2

It is not a British issue drill round.

I believe these were made in Denmark from fired Kynoch cases.

Regards
TonyE


#3

It’s certainly made from a fired case, it was chromed after whatever it was that made that gouge on the base. The coned neck crimp is very similar to that found on 30-06 ‘HA’ made drill rounds, this is quite a distinctive feature.

Happy collecting, Peter


#4

I agree, it has the general look of a scandinavian style of drill round.

The Danes made a number of different drill rounds from fired British cases, including 7.92. These usually have a wood bullet and three shallow grooves around the case. They also have a circle added to the headstamp.

regards
TonyE


#5

Tony,

After looking through my other stuff I see I have a 7.92 BESA cartridge headstamped ‘K5 44 IIZ’ which has three rings pressed round the case, an empty pocket and the neck heavily coned onto a natural wood bullet. I couldn’t see a circle though, maybe it slipped through the net.

I’d put it in my ‘slightly weird’ box so it’s nice to have it identified.

Peter


#6

This is the Danish M58 Dummy. They used surplus cases including those from the UK (typical headstamp: K .30) and the US (typical headstamps: D M 4, R A 43), as well as Danish cases. They used fired and new cases. The knurling was added when they used a fired case. The design evolved and eventually ended up with an unplated brass case with 6 flutes and an empty primer pocket.
Chris P.


#7

I have had one of the wood bullet dummies for a while, a 7.92 Besa round headstamped “R/|\L 43 W II Z”. I always thought it was a UK war expedient drill round.