357 lapua cet


#1

Can anyone please provide any information on this loading and the meaning of the headstamp shown in the title?


#2

Tony,
is it CET or CEP?

Pivi


#3

I haven’t seen it - I’m asking on behalf of someone else - but CET is what I was told.

Does CEP have a meaning?


#4

I have never heard headstamp "357 LAPUA CET"
I think Pivi means CEPP (Controlled Effect Police Projectile)


#5

Yes,I meant CEPP,I forgot a “P”.CEPP is a kind of bullet

Pivi


#6

Tony - I searched all of my Lapua catalogs and literature, as well as the few articles on Lapua I have, and couldn’t find any reference to “CET”. I think the guys are correct that it is actually “CEPP,” a bullet type that has been advertised by them for years.

There was also a cartridge “.30-357 AeT” which was developed in collaboration with Nammo Lapua Oy. It was supposed to be marketed in a 123 grain FMJ loading. However, aside from a flyer I got in 2001 for it, I have seen little or nothing on the round. It is not in any of the actual Lapua catalogs that I have. It was the brainchild of Italian gun writer Nicola Bandini, who named the cartridge after the Italian gun magazine “Armi e Tiro” hence the name .30-357 AeT. The firm of Fratelli Pietta in Italy was going to market a line of “Peacemaker” (Colt Model 1873 types) revolvers chambered for it. In a picture of it, it appears to be a .357 Magnum necked to .30, loaded with a spitzer or spire point bullet. From the bullet weight, they probably used a 7.62 x 39 bullet or something very similar. However, no case specs are given.

I mention this round because since the CEPP is a bullet type, I am not sure they headstamped cases with that designation. The AeT is a cartridge name, and I would guess the cases were so-headstamped. Not being into these revolver rounds, I am not sure in either case, though. I based my comment on the “CEPP” designation not likely to be on headstamps on the fact that 9mm Para rounds with the CEPP bullet are not so-headstamped.


#7

I have an article by Bandini about 30-357 A&T if you are interested to.It is a 357 magnum necked down to 308" rifle bullets (light 308 winchester ones).It is still avaiable trough “bersaglio mobile” gunshop.I have 1 or 2 30-357 cases that are headstamped FAP 30-357 A&T (FAP=fabbrica armi Pietta).
They were made by Lapua for Pietta
John.you are right:it was chambered on special modified peacemaker replicas.

Pivi


#8

Pivi,
A bit off topic, but is the FAP headstamp in a diamond always, or does it come both ways? (On the .30-357 AeT headstamp.) And you wrote A&T. Is that the same as AET? (The E is a smaller size.)
Thanks,
sam


#9

yes,FAP is included into a diamond.I have seen only this kind of headstamp.I made a mistake abour its headstamp,it is AeT not A&T,sorry.
However the meaning of AeT and A&T is the same.On the magazine and on the armi e tiro forum A&T form is often used instead of AeT one

Pivi


#10

Regarding the .30-357 AeT cartridge, I have just been sent by my dear friends Otto and John Witt a photograph of a headstamp “LAPUA .30-357 AeT.” You guys expert on these revolver rounds probably knew about both headstamps already, but to an auto pistol guy like myself, the “LAPUA” rendition was a new one. I had only known about the “FAP” in a Diamond headstamp.

Does anyone have one of these LAPUA headstamps in duplicate? Not the FAP, just the LAPUA.


#11

Yes,it is listed in the bersaglio mobile gunshop catalog under the lapua made-cases,so the ones you can buy in Italy should be headstamped LAPUA .30-357 AeT,but I have never had one in my hands.I have only the FAP headstamped case,probably made during the early days of this caliber

Pivi