.450 Cattle-killer


#1

In the 1958 ICI catalogue, it lists a cattle-killer round in .450. This it describes as “Cordite Red Tab (Bulleted)”. I can understand the “cordite” and the “bulleted”, the latter to differentiate this from the cattle-killer rounds used in captive-bolt systems, but what does “Red tab” mean??


#2

Interesting!!! It is also nice that it fits in with both your .450 collection and your collection of Cattle Killer cartridges.

Good Luck.


#3

The Kynoch manufactured .32 ACP cattle killer is known (by me) in 3 lead bulleted variations, one of which has a red painted bullet tip. However the box does not note “Red tab”.
Othere two are: plain, & with a large hollow point similar to a “manstopper”.


#4

Well, not sure the British .32 auto cattle killers fit here, but since Pete opened the door to them, I will mention that there are a lot of variations of this round. I have ten in my own collection. Of course, some of these are headstamps and primer markings or lack thereof, but I have the following variations beyond just that:

Red Primer Seal, lead RN bullet with red tip, no neck crimps
Same with three stab-type neck crimps
Red primer seal, lead RN bullet with no tip color, 3 stab-type neck crimps
White primer seal, lead RN bullet with white tip, no neck crimps
White primer seal, lead RN bullet, no tip color, three stab-type primer crimps
Blue primer seal, lead RN bullet with blue tip, no neck crimps
Plain primer, cylyndrical lead bullet with almost full diameter holoow- point bullet (very thin edges), no neck crimps
Same as above, with three stab-type neck crimps\

I am sure the colors have meaning, but I don’t know what. I also don’t know if the absence or presence of a tip color the same as the color of the primer seal has any added significance. That, along with the presence or absence of neck crimps, may only be a product of when the rounds were made.

I also have two French S.F.M. (Soc


#5

Is it possable that the different bullet colors are for different size animals. The captive bolt cartridges have different ratings for pigs, sheep and cattle

Gourd


#6

you collect cattle killer ctges Chris ??
jp


#7

NO, I do not collect cattle-killers unless they are .450 caliber.

The 450 cattle-killers DO NOT have colored bullets so that eliminates that as a potential meaning of “Red Tab”.


#8

Chris - Unfortunately, I have a poor (almost non-existent) selection of ICI Catalogs. I do, though, have a copy of one from July 1935. While it does not show the .450 cattle killer at all, on its cattle-killer page (Page 60) it does show them in .22 caliber for the Cash-System and Temple-Cox system apparata, as well as .310 for the Greener Humane Killers. It also refers to loads for the Schermer, and mentions that “other sizes of cattle-killers cartridges are supplied - details on application.”

In each case it referes to a colored label, which I must assume is the box label. A “tab” is somewhat similar to a label, and perhaps the later boxes had only a colored tab to show what the loads are for. A “red label” is shown as being for small pigs.

I don’t know what else this could refer to. The way you have typed it in your request (probably directly from your catalog), the only other thing it could refer to ia a “red label cordite powder,” and while not expert on powders, I have never heard of such a thing.

I would almost bet that it refers to the color-code for the intended use of the load.