455 Eley help please


#1

Hi all, I got this .455 Eley cartridge today. Anyone help with some info please?

Thanks,
Jonathan


#2

Its called a “Man Stopper”.
It is in effect a big wadcutter projectile.
Would love to see the head stamp.
Gregg


#3

Photo below from Tony Edwards page (above), three versions of the “Man Stopper” bullet Mk III, Mk IV and Mk V

Jonathan

It looks as though someone has cut off the exposed lead portion of the bullet in the cartridge shown in your photo.

Brian


#4

How deep is the hole below the piece of felt?

Cant be a manstopper the normal way but might be a turned manstopper that is chopped.

wbstryb


#5

The bullet is flush with the case neck. i will post more photos ASAP. the case length is the same as a MK i it has a rolled neck crimp with 3 stab crimp marks at the same height as the MK i. it is not felt that can be seen but looks like clay…


#6

Sorry about quality of photo

Jonathan


#7

The only clay plug bullet i know of for the Webley revolvers is the Enfield MKIII
It definetly looks lige the chopping was done on a lathe.


loc3970


#8

I just cant bring myself to dig deeper too see what is in that hole:(


#9

Chickenthief, measurements are spot on for the enfield as you suspected. So this is an Eley .455 Enfield cut down 😔. Why would someone do that? Making there own man stopper? It would do the job!!!


#10

Here is my one and only Cartridge S.A. Ball Revolver .455 inch Mark III.

My understanding was that only the MkIII was referred to as the man-stopper, given the deep ‘hollow point’ cavity. It was this characteristic that contravened both the St.Petersburg Declaration and the Hague Convention and was the reason it was ceased.