457 WWG Magnum, 457 Wild West Magnum


#1

457 WWG Magnum, 457 Wild West Guns Magnum

This new cartridge was introduced in late 1999 by Wild West Guns in Anchorage Alaska for their “Co-Pilot” take-down lever-action rifle.
The cartridge is slightly longer then a 45-70 Government, and
delivers a 350 grain projectile at 2,200 feet per second.

Please note in the picture (right side) 457WWG Magnum vs. 45-70 Government, .
The “Co-Pilot” also can fire 45-70 Government and 410 shot-gun shells.
Wild West guns if featured on the TV show “Wild West Alaska” on the discover channel.

Singles now available at ammo-one.com/457WWGmagnum.html or see ad on buying & selling forum
Thank You,
Dave Call
ammo-one.com


#2

Dave, the original specific cartridge for the Co-Pilot rifle was announced as new in 1999 and was a .45-70 custom loading exclusively made by Cor-Bon for WWG. The .457 Wild West Magnum was first mentioned by this company late in 1999, and was made using shortened 45-90 or lengthened 45-70 cases. On January 2001 it was formally introduced and since then cartridges have been loaded by HSM using properly headstamped Starline made cases and various bullet types weighing 350 grains (the original was a Kodiak “Bear”).


#3

On your statement “the 457 WWG Magnum was introduced in 1999”, I can’t find that information anywhere to agree with you, only have the 2112 date on the “Co-Pilot” chambered in 457 WWG magnum on their web-site dated 2012. ? You may be correct, were did you get the information ?
Starline may of made the brass, that information also doesn’t seem to be available, where did you get that fact?
Yes the 457 WWG Magnum is the same diameter, size & shape but different lengthen from the 45-70 and 45-90.


#4

Dave, this information was published in their website back in 1999. Their first Co-Pilot loading (.45-70 case lenght) was announced on October as: “NEW! EXCLUSIVELY FROM WILD WEST GUNS! CUSTOM 45-70 AMMUNITION FROM COR-BON. Our custom load made exclusively for us from the folks at Cor-Bon. Designed for the Co-Pilot, our thumpin’ 45-70 Cor-Bon loads use premium bonded core Kodiak bullets. The 350 grain load develops 2100 fps from a 16.5 inch barrel, and the 405 grain load develops 1850 fps. Magnum punch in a short, fast handling carbine! Field tested on Alaska big game!” On December of the same year the .457 Wild West Magnum was first mentioned, but was not formally available to the public until January 2001 -at the 2001 Shot Show held in New Orleans-, as I mentioned above. The first article I have found about the Co-Pilot rifle in .457 caliber was published in The Legacy of Lever Guns, Winter 2000 edition. Regards, Fede.


#5

[quote=“AmmoOne”]457 WWG Magnum, 457 Wild West Guns Magnum

This new cartridge was introduced in 1999 Wild West Guns in
Anchorage Alaska for their “Co-Pilot” take-down lever-action rifle.
The cartridge is slightly longer then a 45-70 Government, and
delivers a 350 grain projectile at 2,200 feet per second.

Please note in the picture (right side) 457WWG Magnum vs. 45-70 Government, .
The “Co-Pilot” also can fire 45-70 Government and 410 shot-gun shells.
Wild West guns if featured on the TV show “Wild West Alaska” on the discover channel.

Singles now available at ammo-one.com/457WWGmagnum.html or see ad on buying & selling forum
Thank You,
Dave Call
ammo-one.com[/quote]


#6

Great thanks for the correction, it did not say that on their web-site, and no one at Wild West Guns replied to the e-mails
or returned phone calls.


#7

Great thanks for the correction, it did not say that on their web-site, and no one at Wild West Guns replied to the e-mails
or returned phone calls.[/quote]

I will pull the bullet in a 45/70 and a the 457 WWMagnum to see if the case thickness is heavier in the 457 WWG magnum, that would
allow for the heavier loadings vs. 45/70 and 45/90, it may be similar differences like in the 223 Remington vs, the 5.56 NATO cartridges.


#8

[quote=“AmmoOne”]457 WWG Magnum, 457 Wild West Guns Magnum

This new cartridge was introduced in late 1999 by Wild West Guns in Anchorage Alaska for their “Co-Pilot” take-down lever-action rifle.
The cartridge is slightly longer then a 45-70 Government, and
delivers a 350 grain projectile at 2,200 feet per second.

Please note in the picture (right side) 457WWG Magnum vs. 45-70 Government, .
The “Co-Pilot” also can fire 45-70 Government and 410 shot-gun shells.
Wild West guns if featured on the TV show “Wild West Alaska” on the discover channel.

Singles now available at ammo-one.com/457WWGmagnum.html or see ad on buying & selling forum
Thank You,
Dave Call
ammo-one.com[/quote]
I will pull the bullet in a 45/70 and a the 457 WWMagnum to see if the case thickness is heavier in the 457 WWG magnum, that would
allow for the heavier loadings vs. 45/70 and 45/90, it may be similar differences like in the 223 Remington vs, the 5.56 NATO cartridges