47 x 405 R


#1

I found two 407 x 40R cases
First one : brass case , hstp : 1 E1 “leo” 38 1938 4CM VZ 36

Second one : laquered steel case, hstp : va 2 41 4.7 cm Pak(t) St

Which one is scarcer than the other one (if they are scarce !) ?

Thanks
JP


#2

JP,
I think you mean 40 x 407 R (47mm)
The first one is the original Czech case vzor 36 (model 1936)
The second is German made for the same gun.This one is more scarce.


#3

[quote=“Western”]JP,
I think you mean 40 x 407 R (47mm)
The second is German made for the same gun.This one is more scarce.[/quote]
It is in fact in fact not green laquered but more like copper washed.
It is normal ??

thanks
JP


#4

Yes, this is also a steel case coverd with brass or copper.


#5

thanks !
jp


#6

thanks !
jp[/quote]

For a shotshell collector you come up with a lot of big stuff !


#7

Who did tell you I was collecting only shotshells ?
I started collecting shotshells two years ago because ctges missing to my reference collection are rare and too expansive for me.
Shotshells are cheap (at least at the beginning!!).

We had a lot of wars in France and very often you can find big cases on the flea markets.
I take them when they are not too expansive.
But, because I know nothing about them, it is a lotery. (How many times I bought shells people have cut !!)

Now it is better since I discovered a good UK website with a list of all the different cases.
JP


#8

You also find quite a few bring backs here, but I have also bought shells that have been cut, I now feel round the neck for saw marks and check that it is level before I buy it. I missed a British 4.5" Howitzer case (Case length shorter than calibre) for