.50 Cal Bullet identification


#1

Hi guys,

I have this one in my collection,- but I didn’t really know what it is. It looks like an AP bullet with a whole on his back for tracer with a empennage.



Now I saw this ones in an auction:

Is it the bullet I have in my collection? There a 3 types in this picture. What types are the 3 bullets on the left hand?
Sold by a person from Netherlands.


#2

Manuel, check this:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12368&p=88162&hilit=lrta#p88162


#3

Ok, thank you - its " LRTA projectiles…(Limited Range Training Ammunition)".

But who is the manufacturer ,- what does the tip color say in this case ( there are two different markings ).

And what are the bullets on the left hand in the last picture?


#4

Ok I got it: dtic.mil/ndia/2012armaments/ … ourque.pdf


#5

Manuel-

Your example of an LRTA projectile is fired and unusual in that it appears the tip of the jacket has been cutaway, exposing the core. That is interesting as that it appears to be before firing, so intentional. Possibly an example of the projectile being modified to decrease range.


#6

Manuel,

the 3 bullets on the left are French PORED F2 (PORED = Portée réduite), a kind of LRTA projectile.

Domi


#7

Ok, I’ve just find informations in French language :-(
Like this: militariacollec.free.fr/ident/vi … =7&t=32830


#8

Ok, here you can see an zinc chromate projectile.
cartrology.com/browse-ammuni … em&ID=1048

There exists 2 different types of this projectiles . If I’m not mistaken. On the picture I have shown is an aluminum I think.
I bought it.


#9

Manuel, the one in the image is zink washed.


#10

Ok, I got my bullets.
I make my first cutaway model with one of it.
In the top is kind of concrete.




#11

FYI
I picked up this bullet in a midwest gun shop 1 1/2 years ago.
The store owner told me it came from a customer who worked at Federal Mogul in MPLS, MN as a machinist and
this was part of a government contract, special run.
Not much information to go on other than where it was supposedly manufactured.
Measurements and photo below.


#12

Bob-

Your bullet is actually the core from a variant of the LRTA under discussion. They just wrapped a copper jacket around this core to form the bullet.

Note the area just above the fins. The diameter of your bullet, dramatically changes just above the fins. There’s a “lip.” Compare to the cross section photos above.


#13

The information is much appreciated.
The knowledge represented on this forum is amazing.
Thanks,
Bob Ruebel


#14

Here you can see the other bullet type I bought.
After cleaning you can see, thats an solid brass bullet.