50-ex


#1

I got a small shipment of cartridges today from an on-line auction. One round I can’t seem to find any information on. The headstamp reads: U.M.C.CO 50-EX. Is this a 50-95 Winchester Express?

OAL= 2.288"
Case Length= 1.935"
Head dia.= 0.625"
Body dia.= .571" tapered to .550"
Neck dia.= 0.533"


#2

Hope it is the 50-95 Winchester Express because I have the same one. Does it have a copper plug in the tip of the bullet? Vic


#3

According to Municion it is a 50-95 WCF (50-95-300 express): http://www.municion.org/Win/50-95Win.htm It has a pic of the headstamp near the bottom.


#4

Matt
You are correct. The next to the bottom headstamp is exactly like mine. Thanks for the link.

Vic
Sorry, no copper plug. It has a flat nose lead bullet. There is a little info about that copper plug in the link in Matt’s reply.

So it looks like it must be a 50-95 Winchester Express. I got it for $11 plus a buyer’s fee and shipping, don’t know if that’s a good deal or not?


#5

In effect, the 50-95 Winchester was an “improved” 50-70 Govt to be used in the 1876 Winchester rifle. If it was loaded with the express bullet it was called the 50-95 Winchester Express. But, you’d never catch UMC putting “Winchester” on one of it’s headstamps. It is interesting that they called it Express with the plain FN bullet.

Ray


#6

Roger…

It is a 50-95 Winchester Solid Ball…( as UMC called it)…as it does not have the copper tube in the nose of the bullet. With the copper tube it would be the .50-95 Express. The Express bullet is 300 grains and the Solid is 312 grains.

Randy


#7

[quote=“30army”]Roger…

It is a 50-95 Winchester Solid Ball…( as UMC called it)…as it does not have the copper tube in the nose of the bullet. With the copper tube it would be the .50-95 Express. The Express bullet is 300 grains and the Solid is 312 grains.

Randy[/quote]
So Randy (and all), the headstamp says 50-EX yet it doesn’t have the hollow-point bullet with the copper insert. If you look close at the photo you can see that there is a slight dark ring near the head so this may be a reloaded cartridge with a cast flat nose bullet.


#8

I just revisited the link above and the last cartridge in profile has the same dark ring near the head. I can’t read what the article says so I’m stuck to just looking at the photos. Just what is an express bullet? The bullet in my round is definitely a “hard” cast bullet.


#9

Roger

Go to the Home page. In the Glossary look up “copper tube bullet”.

My guess is that UMC didn’t want to call it the 50-95 Winchester, or the 50-95 W, so they called it the 50 EX. It would have been simpler if they simply called it the 50-95 but even that had Winchester connotations.

A lot of business rivalry in those days. Reminds me of the 257 Remington Roberts and the 257 Winchester Roberts. The same cartridge with two names.

Ray


#10

Roger–U.M.C. did use the .50 EX headstamp on both the 300gr. Copper Tubed Express load and the 312gr. Solid Ball. Below is an excerp from the 1905 U.M.C. catalog.


#11

Ron
Isn’t that strange that they both had the same “EX” headstamp, but only one was called an “Express”?

Well, Happy Thanksgiving all.