50 MG Sabot


#1

On a site there is a 50 BMG cartridge for sale with a Black Sabot. I looked in Ron Fuch’s info and can find no mention of it. Does anyone know anything about this round?
Carolyn


#2

Do you have a photo?
What is the projectile type, how many petals does the sabot have, what are the case markings?


#3

I have a sectioned experimental .50 with a black sabot which entirely encloses the bullet (see central one below). Not sure what it is, though.


#4

I was told that it is in Ron’s book under Canada 111.1 IVI 73
Carolyn


#5

In Tony’s picture of the .50 (the one in the center), the sabot profile looks very much like the sabot for a DU penetrator used in the 7.62X51, which is also black plastic. So it is a DU round?


#6

I don’t know what it is. It looks rather like a Belgian experimental as drawn in de Hek and Lenselink (Military Cartridges Part 1) which is shown as having this headstamp: 12.7 80 F.N.

What I can see of the headstamp on mine is: .50 87 and the beginning of a letter which could be F or P.

As I recall of the DUDS rounds, the bullets were rather blunt.


#7

The 7.62 DU sabot is on the right. Looks much the same to me.


#8

Tony, to me your .50 BMG saboted round looks alot like a scaled down version of the British 30mm Rarden APDS. Is it possible that it could have benn a scaled down test projectile used during the development of the 30mm?


#9

The Chinese used a similar shaped 3-piece black sabot in the 12.7x108 case. My example has a dark brown steel case headstamped 41 (over) 85.


#10

An almost identical bullet exists with a white sabot with a very thin driving band. For the rest it looks almost identical to the specimen in Tonys photo. It is an APDS made by FNB.


#11

[quote=“CAROLYN”]I was told that it is in Ron’s book under Canada 111.1 IVI 73
Carolyn[/quote]
And filed in Ron’s book under 143.0 Valcartier Industries USA

I V I 7 3 APDS 3 pc black sabot 1s cl b/pl 0673
(also see U.S. – IVI) (filed under U.S. – IVI)
Mfgd by: PATEC (Pacific Technical), sabot contains ptd steel penetrator, 7.91mm in diameter x 1.557” in length


#12

[quote=“DennisK”]The 7.62 DU sabot is on the right. Looks much the same to me.
[/quote]
I didn’t mean that the DUDS sabot was blunt, but the bullet - the penetrator - compared with the finely-pointed one in my example.


#13

I doubt it, given the 87 date on the case (assuming that this is a date!).


#14

Sorry Tony, I didn’t see that you had posted the headstamp.