58 Hazard Real or Fake?


#1

My question is this .58 Hazard cartridge real or a fake? I believe it is a fake. However the guy who gave it to me several years ago thinks it is authentic.


Thanks
Zac


#2

Nice looking, but way outta my league!

Steve


#3

Whats your reason for thinking it my be fake?


#4

This is why I think it is a fake. The projectile or bullet has a flat point or tip and looks to me much like a modern muzzle loader bullet. None of the pictures of Hazard cartridges in any of my books show a flat point bullet. They all seem to be a semi-pointed round nose bullet. And then there is the glue that can be seen on the bullet. Looks like Elmer’s glue to me.
Zac


#5

The bullet looks as if it has been acid treated to turn it black. I would think that an original would be almost white with corrosion.


#6

Known Doremus & Budd patent .58 Rifle Musket cartridges made by Hazard Powder Company have a round nose bullet with two grooves. The collodion varnish in your cartridge is absent too. It looks like a replica (or fake) to me.


#7

For some reason I decided to give your cartridge a second chance, not because I thought it was a Doremus & Budd patent, but because I thought it could be an original modern replica made just for shooting. I’m glad to find out it was made in the 1950’s-60’s by Mount Pleasant Cartridge Co., Racine, Wisconsin and is highly collectable if you find it with its original packet.


#8

Thank you Fede. The info is greatly appreciated.
Zac