Well, I found I am not through here yet. I decided to give up, for
now, the search about Frommer cartridges in my ammunition library,
and went to the gun section. As I have always said, it is patently
impossible, in any scholarly research, to separate the subjects of
guns and the ammunition for them. You can center the research on
either field, but to do so, it is really often necessary to do that
research in both fields
Reference: “Vom Ursprung der Selbstladepistole, Repetier- und
Selbstladepistolen in Oesterreichische-Ungarn 1884 bis 1918,
Oesterreichische Pistolen, Band I,” by Josef Moetz and Joschi
Schuy, page 639. (This is a key page for the cartridge descriptions.
The entire section on Frommer Patent firearms is worth a look see.
In Block form, there are two data tables for the “7.65 mm Frommer
Lang” cartridge and the “9 mm Frommer” cartridge.
Kalibertabelle 24 (Caliber Table 24) - 7.65 Frommer Long
Andere Bezeichnungen (other designations): GR 619/562, 7.65 Frommer, 7.8 x 17.5;
7.65 Browning, .32 ACP. (EMPHASIS ON THE LAST TWO DESIGNATIONS FOR
Kalibertabelle 25 - 9 mm Frommer
Andere Bezeichnungen: GR 929/1220, EB 122, 9 x 17, 9mm Browning Kurz,
.380 ACP (AGAIN, EMPHASIS ON THE LAST TWO DESIGNATIONS).
Each table has only one set of ballistic and physical cartridge measurements
to cover all these designations.
This same page, 639) has photos of the two cartridges as well as pictures of
a “Cal. 7.65 mm (.32) Frommer B” and “Cal. 9 mm (.380 Frommer S” as well
as a 15 round box with the same basic label for the 9 mm round).
These tables would indicate to me that the 7.65 Frommer Lang and the 9 mm
Frommer are simply additional names for the .32 Auto and .380 Auto cartridges.
This is backed up by a picture of and specifications sheet for the Frommer Baby-Pistole,
on which the calibers listed are simply "Kal. 7.65 mm (.32) und 9 mm (.380). No use
of the word Frommer after the caliber designations.
In this work, I could find not mention of a 6.35 mm Frommer Pistol, but then perhaps that
came after the closing date of the material, 1918. Unfortunately, I do not have volume
II of this fine book. (Only disadvantage for many is that it is entirely in the German
Language. I don’t read German well, but can handle tables and some picture captions
if they are not too involved, but I still find this book valuable.
I should add that the S on the box labels obviously stands for “Stop” and the “B” stands for
Baby. The “L” on the 25 caliber box label had me stumped, but in the above book there is
a passage on page 650, which is in the section on Frommer, that reads: “Als Ersatz bachte FROMMER
spaeter in der Zwischenkriegszeit das Modell LILIPUT im Kal. 6.35 mm auf den Markt.” My
very bad knowledge of German does not allow me to make sense of that passage, but it would
put a meaning, perhaps, of “Liliput” to the “L” on the 6.35 mm box. Perhaps one of our German-
language speaking friends could help us with that??? One of the questions, of course, is that
cartridge box label with the “L” as the model also depicts a typical Frommer pistol. Now, if they
later made a Frommer Baby in 6.35 mm and called it the Liliput, that would solve the question, but
there is a Liliput Pistol that came in both 4.25 mm and 6.35 mm, but the outline of the pistol
looks nothing like a Frommer Baby.