6.5x53R Dutch Mannlicher


#1

I have a 6.5x53R Dutch Mannlicher headstamped:

–35
90–35
—D

Am I correct in that Dordrecht is the manufacturer, “35” at 12 O’clock is the case manufacturing year, “35” at 3 O’clock is the Year the case was filled, and “90” is the case lot number?


#2

Hi Falcon,

“90” is not the case lot but the powder number.
“35” at 12 and 3 O’clock you’re right.
“D” is the brass code , I have no information that could be Dordrecht.


#3

Cheers Western, I thought the D was a manufacturing code for Dordrecht, rather than simply an indication of case metal supplier. Weren’t most of these made by Dordrecht?


#4

The production was at Hembrug Artillerie-Inrichtingen.

Brass suppliers :Begium,Brittan,Germany,Switserland and USA


#5

Thanks, are the brass supplier codes still unknown?


#6

I don’t know. Ask SirJoost he’s an expert on these cartridges.


#7

Brass suppliers

-Out of the book The Dutch Mannlicher M95 and the Cartridge

-Carl Berg;Werdhol;Westfalen;Germany
-Schweizerische Metallwerke Selve&Co;Thun;Zwitserland
-Basse&Selve Messingwerke ;Altona;Germany
-Kupfer und Messingwerke A.G;Hirsch;Berlin;Germany
-Mansfeldscher Metallhandel A.G;Berlin;Germany
-Kynoch Ltd;Birmingham;Engeland
-Svenska Metallverken;Stockholm;Zweden
-Bridgeport Brass Company;Bridgeport;U.S.A.
-Gorham Manufacturing Company;New York;U.S.A.
-The Waclark Wire Company;Elizabeth;U.S.A.
-Metal Productions;U.S.A.
-Seymour Manufacturing Company;Seymour;U.S.A.
-National Conduit & Cable Company;U.S.A.
-Fabrique national des Armes de Guerre;Herstal;Belgie


#8

So is there no key to the letters for the brass supplier? I would like to know which one of those companies “D” is the code for.


#9

We are waiting for him to finish his web site section about that caliber.


#10

Gyrojet already showed you the known brass suppliers, and these are the known lettercodes;

S = Schweizerische Metallwerke Selve & Co
FN = Fabrique nationale
Gr = G. Roth (logo)
B = Carl berg hagen Werdohl Germany
BS = Basse & Selve Messingwerke Altona Germany
X = Gorham manufacturing company New York. USA
22D AI = Kupfer und Messingwerke A.G Hirsch, Berlin Germany

A lot more letter codes were used but are unknown.

There are 7.9x57R (Dutch) known produced at Dordrecht with a D at 12 o’clock. The D (and Do) at 6 o’ clock on a 6.5mm Mannlicher could also refer to Dordrecht but till now there are no documents found to proof it.

Joost