7,5 mm Patronen für Gewehrgranaten


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I got this little box of 5 grenade blanks for what I would assume would be the StG 57 (Was the Schmidt rifles still in use, and could they accept muzzle-fired grenades?) some time ago. I tried finding out what the rounds look like, but I couldn’t find a designation/name.


Does anyone have pictures of the cartridges inside, and/or know their headstamp?
While searching I found this picture in an .pdf file, “Das Sturmgewehr 57 und Die Gewehrgranaten 58”:

Could this be it?

I would open it up to have a look, but since I have no clue whether these are a dime a dozen or actually worth keeping, I’ll leave it in its good un-opened condition for now.
As a relatively new collector here in Norway, I have to say it’s very hard to find un-opened boxes of anything; Norwegian collectors seem to rip up whatever cardboard gets to their hands…

Thanks in advance!

-Ole


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#3

Thank you for the very quick response.

  • Ole

#4

Ole,

You are welcome.

I did not make any comments earlier for two reasons, I was at work and in a hurry and this is only information I have on this cartridge.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on the subject can provide some additional information.

Brian


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Ole - What is to be learned from an unopened box? A question I always ask, so forgive me. I never saw the fascination with unopened boxes since often it leaves the owner, and in some cases everyone else, in the dark about the contents.


#6

Brian,
No problem, the link you posted was very interesting on its own. Thank you again.

John,
I guess you are right, but I’d maybe explain it with that since unopened boxes with things like 7,5 mm blanks are unusual here, it gains a kind of an sentimental value.
Now that I’ve figured out what it is, I suppose I’ll carefully open it and put one of the rounds next to my other blank rounds.
I do agree with your point about not knowing what it is - maybe it’s time for IAA to get its own x-ray machine solely for ID-ing boxes rounds?

  • Ole

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[quote=“tennsats”]I got this little box of 5 grenade blanks for what I would assume would be the StG 57 (Was the Schmidt rifles still in use, and could they accept muzzle-fired grenades?) some time ago. I tried finding out what the rounds look like, but I couldn’t find a designation/name.


Does anyone have pictures of the cartridges inside, and/or know their headstamp?
While searching I found this picture in an .pdf file, “Das Sturmgewehr 57 und Die Gewehrgranaten 58”:

Could this be it?

I would open it up to have a look, but since I have no clue whether these are a dime a dozen or actually worth keeping, I’ll leave it in its good un-opened condition for now.
As a relatively new collector here in Norway, I have to say it’s very hard to find un-opened boxes of anything; Norwegian collectors seem to rip up whatever cardboard gets to their hands…

Thanks in advance!

-Ole[/quote]

The “Markierpatrone” is a noise blank, not a propulsive cartridge. Those green plastic ones are very common.

gravelbelly


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Thank you very much for sharing gyrojet, those are some great photographs. I wasn’t aware of those shorter-than-usual Schmidt magazines, reminds me of the ones used in the later AK-type grenade launching magazines.

  • Ole

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There was also a special all-brass dummy for use with the blocked magazine, they are marked: GW MANIP TREIB-PAT and packed in a red charger with a wooden packing piece. The charger seems to be an oddity as the live rounds have no equivalent charger!

gravelbelly


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