7.62 X 54 Dummy query


#1

I would appreciate help to ID this round

Black plastic one piece case and pointed bullet ,steel multi ringed base with what appears to be just a small dab of Black paint in the centre ,no markings at all, obviously a drill /dummy round but do we know who used it and who made it Randy


#2

Sounds East German. Is the “primer” paint or black plastic?


#3

This is almost certainly an East German Dummy round. The black “paint” is most likely a continuation of the plastic of the upper portion of the dummy, that is extruded down into a hole through the steel base, forming a snap cap and helping to anchor the two pieces together. I have several variations of this dummy. Earlier East German Black plastic dummies, made in many calibers by the way, had a small firing pin clearance “dimple” in the base - the plastic did not go all the way thru. Tomorrow, I will try to scan a few sectioned 9mm Makarovs, and perhaps a .32 auto dummy and get my friend Joe to post them on this forum, so that you can see the typical construction. I don’t have a sectioned 7.62 x 54R, but construction is similar.


#4

Is this the dummy round? with the orignal box East German


#5

I wanted to post pictures of a couple of cutaway DDR plastic/steel base dummy rounds to show the inner construction. However, after spending an hour trying to get a decent image, I gave up. I could not, even with help from photo shop, come up with a scan that was acceptable to me for publication on the form. I apologize to all.


#6

Hi Gyrojet, thanks for the picture ,the round is the same except for the bullet tip ,yours is rounded where mine is pointed and the steel base on mine has a brighter finish ,John, looking closer at the black blob in the base ,it dose look like plastic and will be as you say a continuation of the plastic case forming a small snap cap, yhanks all Randy