I have the following round, which I suspect is Chinese in origin. However, I also believe that Privi Partisan also manufactured these using 11 as the factory code. Can anyone confirm the manufacturer please?
Actually not, as they did not make steel cases in 7.62x25, no copper clad ones at all and the numerical code was used only from 1947 till 1956. Also PPU numerical headstamps had stars at 9h and 3h.
PPU 7.62x25 were all brass (like all other Yugoslav production)
Here for example a 7.92x57.
Image source: internet and there published by our friend Phil Butler (RIP)
Agreed…100% PRC. Yugoslavia used the 11 * XX * headstamp on 7.62 Tokarev rounds from 1950 to 1956.
Thank you both for confirming. The list of headstamps that I saw simply listed 11 being attributed to PPU but with no indication of dates or layout.
Factory #11 has been observed with dates from the 1950’s to present. Factory 11 and 311 are the main 9x19mm producers in China but they also manufacture 7.62x25mm Tokarev, 7.62x17mm, 5.8x21mm, 7.62x39mm and 12.7x99mm as well.
I haven’t seen a Chinese 7.62x39mm with the “11” factory code.
To me known so far from the Chinese #11:
5.6x16R, 5.8x21 dated 2001, 7.62x17 dated 1968-2002, 7.62x25 dated 1955-2006, 7.62x39R dated 1966, 8.6x70 dated 2017, 9x17R dated 2007-2009, 9x18 dated 2012, 9x19 dated 1989-2013, 9x29R dated 2015, 9x32R dated 2015-2019, 12.7x99 dated 1990-1996, 12.7x108 dated 1990-2016, 14.5x114 dated 1967-2013, 20x28B dated 2011-2012, 23x115 dated 1976, 23x152B dated 1993, PPL CADs dated 1990-2019
I can confirm Tokarevs from 1955 to at least 2006, with a few years missing in the middle. I have no reports from '68, '74, '77, '78, '86, '89, '94, '96, '01, '03, '04, '05.