7.62x51 M948 or M984 SLAP


#1


WCC/SLAP/85 tungsten ceramic AP Sabot Light Armor Piercing


#2

Isn’t it, Cartridge, Caliber 7.62mm NATO, Saboted Light Armor Penetrator, M948

Is the M948 a NATO cartridge?

Ray


#3

Knowing Ray as I do, I’d offer that he is correct in his questioning correction. Or not. Now the question is: that’s not a mil case, is it? Early batch for testing?


#4

Thanks Ray, Ive seen it written both ways. Confusing. The M948 SLAP would be the nonferrous penetrator in a sabot/.308. Were these ever used by military, or, are they just experimental? Always seen headstamps in 85-90 years. Some sabots on later dates are different.


#5

It’s interesting that TM 43-0001-27 lists the M903 and M962 as Cal .50 Saboted Light Armor Penetrator (M962 is a tracer), but nothing on the 7.62mm version.

Wolf, where did you find the M948 designation listed?

All of the SLAP cartridges I have seen (including cal .50) have the WCC headstamp. Has anyone seen one with a military headstamp?

Ray


#6

the 12.7x108 Russian/Soviet, as made by Olin, just has an " 8 8 " (at about 7 & 5 O’clock) headstamp. Cryptic enough to qualify as Military?


#7

Weren’t these for Afghanistan? If so the people using them were officially considered combatants and sowith military?

I am not really sure if only the hs is the criteria for a cartridge to be military or not.


#8

My question didn’t come out the way I intended. WCC can be a military headstamp, as we all know. What I meant was, has anybody seen a SLAP cartridge with an Arsenal headstamp? Such as LC, etc.

Ray


#9

Ray, got info on the M948 SLAP at wikipedia, under 7.62x51 SLAP. Don’t know enough to say if its true or not. Tomorrows cartidge/ question was going to be on the M959 SLAP-T. Thats on that page as well. The only other headstamp I’ve seen was WCC/SLAP no date on a 7.62. Figured that was experimental. Heard that Olin and Winchester exsist. The tungsten projectile dia. needs to be under a .223 or its a fake. (.191 in.)


#10

Ray,
Here is a spec sheet on M948/M959 7.62MM SLAP/SLAP TRACER cartridge. I have seen headstamps of “WCC SLAP” with date codes from 85 to 90 in 20round boxes & on M-13 links of 100% SLAP, 4-1, & 9-1 (M948 SLAP- M959 SLAP TRACER). Have not seen any comfirmed original headstamp codes other than “WCC SLAP”. But I have seen “LC” headstamps on what I believed were non-original 7.62x51mm SLAP cartridges.

                                               HTH,
                                               Carey


#11

Wolf,
I forgot to mention: the M948 penetrators I have pulled are not completely non-ferrous. They indicate a very small amount of ferrous content when checked with a strong magnet; a pencil magnet did not give an easily discernible positive indication. Give it a try when you have time.

                                        Carey