7.65mm RA 17 Dummy


#1

I did a search of the database for my collection looking for a RA 17 Dummy that Ray has posted on another thread to see if I had one and this one popped up.

I have it identified as a 7.65x53mm Dummy M1889 but I don


#2

I was just informed via e-mail that this cartridge does not have a wooden spacer inside. It is sawdust or some similar material. I banged it on my desk and sure enough small particles of something came out. Looking in the very small holes it looks like a solid piece of wood but a needle penetrates whatever it is very easily.


#3

Hi Phil
When I bought mine I was told that it was made by Raufoss of Norway
Carolyn


#4

Carolyn
Could well be. A friend says he has seen a box of these rounds and is going to check and see what the box says.


#5

Although it is not conclusive proof that these cartridges were made by the same outfit, compare the size of the primer and case holes. I think until I see some documented proof otherwise, I am going to continue to call the 7.65mm a Remington made item. It sure won’t be the first time I was wrong!!


#6

Phil,
I have six other Remington dummies exactly like the R A 17 7.65 round in my collection. The only difference is the “REM-UMC” on them.


#7

Phil,
I have six other Remington dummies exactly like the R A 17 7.65 round in my collection. The only difference is the “REM-UMC” on them.


#8

I have the identical RA17 dummy, but on Saturday I picked up another Remington 7.65mm dummy.

This has a fluted case and bullet, the bullet is hollow with a hole in the nose and the headstamp is “REM-UMC 7.65m/m”.

Is this a WWI contract for Belgium or is it for one of the south American countries?

I will post picture later when I am back home with my scanner.

Regards
TonyE


#9

TonyE

I really don’t know. My notes say it was a WWI Belgian contract but I don’t recall where I got that info from if you are referring to the one I Posted first. If you are referring to the REM-UMC headstamp I still don’t know!!


#10

A friend found the box with these RA 17 rounds. Unfortunately he can