7.92 mauser


#1

is this a regular Smk V trop or something more interesting (Glimmspur or sthing else)?
(I am always careful with painted ctges)

hstp is edq S* 8 42
thanks
JP


#2

I had never heard about Smk Gl’ Trop.
Basing on “Willem van Eijk” listing, it could be a SmkGl’-v. Maybe somebody put the red paint around the nose case.
Laurent


#3

[quote=“laurent”]I had never heard about Smk Gl’ Trop.
Basing on “Willem van Eijk” listing, it could be a SmkGl’-v. Maybe somebody put the red paint around the nose case.
Laurent[/quote]

merci Laurent

the black tip is small
I know people overhere know perfectly the connexio between loadings and hstps
perhaps they can help

PS : send me by pm your name
i know a laurent but doesn’t know if it is you!!
jp


#4

JP - Despite regulations setting down the required length of the colored tip (or perhaps I should say “height of the colored tip”) on various loads, the Germans were quite sloppy in coloring the tip of these tracer rounds. From the picture, your round looks to be a Standared SmKL’Spur-V (T) round - the so-called Christmas Tree round. The Glimmspur tips are, as much as I can tell by the picture, much shorter as to the Length (or height, or width) of the black tip. Some it is so small it can almost be over-looked.

JMHO.


#5

thank you John
jp


#6

Not every plant made each round.
This year (1942) “edq” made only ammunition in brass cases.
This ammo was also ordered/made for the air force. SmK Gl spur, B- cartridge, PmK.
A few SmE lots are known for export to Portugal.

Glimspur-v trop was never made.
The SmK Lsp-v trop was only made by “eej/P315”

It is known some people like to upgrade cartridges with an additional color.
You can test the colors with some isopropyl Alcohol. If it turns red, you have a round for your “fake” collection. (I like these kinds of rounds)

Rgds
Dutch


#7

Thank you very much to all

JP


#8

I’ve also in my box the two following ctges

  1. brass case, red pa, brass primer, tombac bullet with very small black tip
    Weight 23.6 g
    Could you check please if it is a SMK Spur or sthing more interesting
    the hstp is edq S* 3 43
  2. brass case, red primer (it is not brass but white under) , tombac bullet with black tip
    Weight 23.2 g
    Could you check please if it is a SMK spur or sthing more interesting
    the hstp is dnf S* 5 43
    thanks
    JP

#9

Yes Jeanpierre,

You have a edq S* 3 43 Glimspur. (Dimm tracer)
The dnf S* 5 43 SmK Lsp. you mentioned has a primer 30/40. It is a Zink plated primer.

Rgds
Dutch


#10

Thank you very much Dutch.
It is a good news.

JP