7 x 23 (7 Penna) new VBA pistol cartridge


#1

After the sudden death of the ugly 7,92 x 24, VBR of Belgium is back.

A new cartridge and a new pistol made in Italy.

The ammo is a 7mm slug in an converted 5,7 case and the pistol
is an 1911/ Beretta derivate.

Ammo and gun should be made now in Italy by

QS Progetto Meccanica s.a.s.

fsdip.com/website/VBRBelgium … fault.aspx


#2

The 7 mm Penna familiy of cartridges is not especially new. We reported on this ammunition in Issue 440 of the International Ammunition Association Journal, November/December 2004 issue, and had the specimens shown in the article at hand a month at least before that.

Reference: Above noted Jounral, “7 mm Penna Family,” John L. Moss - Woodin Lab, pages 43 to 45.

John Moss


#3

Little is heard about this wannabe PDW caliber in recent times. Is it dead?


#4

Penna are still keeping their website going: qsarmi.com/


#5

The QS Mechanica sas website’s online pdf brochure is bizarre. It must be a new one, it’s complete with background art of break-dancers and graffiti-esque artwork. The old brochure (2007) was much more traditional looking, and the English page about the 7 Penna ammo looked like this:


#6

There is also a 7 mm Penna rimmed and a 7 mm Penna “extra long”

The first one is no longer produced since even revolvers chambered for the 7 mm Penna use the rimless version.

7 mm Penna is now loaded by Fiocchi and sold through QS meccanica


#7

They are still promoting the long case (28mm) version but I think they’ve only used test barrels - no mention of a gun for it.


#8

Tony,
almost all the Penna-chambered pistols and revolvers ( and now a winchester replica too) use the “standard” ( 23 mm) length.There are 3 revolvers cataloged in Italy and chambered for the rimmed version .No pistols chambered for the long version ( 28 mm) are currently cataloged in Italy.This means that no pistols so chambered are available on the market

Mr. penna said me that they are developing an extra long case ( 33 mm?) intended for LAW inforcement or military use , but they don’t mention it on their on line catalog


#9

Anyhow very interesting - they try to make something new - but an fine detail -

case length is limited to the pistol it was used in … so the 100 year old 1911 design

even dictated ammo design today.

High performance with low recoil AND vest breaking.

THE BEST CARTRIDGE OF THE WORLD


#10

[quote=“genkideskan”]
High performance with low recoil AND vest breaking.

THE BEST CARTRIDGE OF THE WORLD[/quote]

These words shall remain us about so many other “wonder weapons” and calibers which disappeared in history.