[quote=“VinceGreen”]Thanks for that information, Its extremely useful. Yes its a Portugese Kropatschek, I don’t know where he got it from. There is a big market in obsolete calibres over here because they are the only rifles and pistols that can be bought and kept legally by collectors without having to go through all the paperwork.
The collectors are not allowed to shoot them but there are also people like us who do shoot all the vintage stuff. We still have to go through all the paper work unfortunately, even for an exempt calibre.
The size of the collectors market means there are often oddball rifles like this available from small time dealers. Somebody has probably been to Portugal and bought up a load. You can drive to Portugal from Britain in a day. It would be a hard day’s drive but by putting them in your car and driving them back you by-pass all the shipping red tape.[/quote]
Ammunition (0ld stocks ) showing up from time to time. They where sold ones by Frankonia and Hege as Surplus ammo.
Newly fabricated cases are made by Horneber Fuerth (Fürth) in Germany and distributed by Reimer Johannsen .
you can find his offers on cases here:
johannsen-jagd.de/data_de/ka … uelsen.pdf
Prices are in Euro…
if you scroll down in the list, you will find the 8x60R Krop. Cases…
Unfortunatelly the cases have NOT the thick base as the originals and most of them will not fire, as the firing pin will push the case forwards into the chamber and giving not enough resistance to give a sure ignition People told me. You can help you with a small disc (put over the ammo from the front) or also sometimes a rubberband from deloading hammers where used, pulled over from the front and Holding that case more backwards…)
The cases are not always in stock and it takes its time to get them…They are Boxer primed empty cases.
The originals using a large Diameter (.25) Berdan primer…Most of the originals from 1900 to about 1922 still fires ok…