Lew et al - The only thing that leaves me wondering if the bullet in the PMP-headstamped case was made by Joe Zambone is the way the scallops stick up above the plastic nose of the bullet. It is a jam waiting to happen with those thin-wall projections so high above the nose. Joe tested most of his rounds in a pistol and also a Thompson SMG. He used to complain to me, good naturedly, about what it cost him to put a magazine full of his rounds thru the TSMG in a matter of seconds! I have seen no Magsafe round with any condition anything like this. I will have Joe post a picture of my rounds I just took to show the bullet shape and construction.
My two rounds have the following measurements:
Overall cartridge weight:
Brass case - 136.3 grains (8.81 grams)
Nickel case: 133.6 grains (8.64 grams)
I am not at all sure that the difference is significant when you consider these bullets were basically hand-made!
Length from the head of the cartridge to the bottom of the knurled cannelure on the bullet:
Brass case - 0.7895 inch (20.06 mm)
Nickel case - 0.821 inch (20.86 mm)
Bullet length from the “shadow” of the base on the case to the tip of the bullet (approximate - a little difficult to accurately measure):
Brass case - 0.5365 inch (13.63 mm)
Nickel case - 0.536 inch (13.62 mm)
With me taking a measurement like this, the difference is meaningless.
Now, about dating these rounds. It is a bit complicated, but I will do the best I can.
The first price sheet I have that lists the 60 grain-bullet “Swat Load” is dated January 24, 1988. It is listed under Index number 9AW.
On the price sheet of October 10, 1988, the index number is changed to simply “9W.” The bullet weight remained at 60 grains.
The Swat Load 9W is dropped on price list dated July 7, 1989.
Swat Load 9W is reinstated in the line on the price list of January 13, 1995, where it is shown as “NEW.” The bullet weight is then 58 grains.
On the price list of August 30, 1995, the Swat load is again dropped from the line.
The price list of November 8, 1995, again shows the Swat Load in the line, now with a 68 grain bullet.
An undated price list attached to a letter for Khaled W. Akkawi, who purchased Magsafe, countersigned by Joe Zambone who, the letter mentions, was to remain active in the Research and Development of the line, dated April 22, 1998, still shows the 9W load. It is the first price sheet showing a Casselberry, Florida address rather than the oirignal Magsafe address in Olympia, Washington.
A catalog from the new Magsafe Ammo Inc. (Previousl Magsafe Ammo Company), dated February 1, 1999, reveals that the 9W Swat Load is no longer offered. The line is cut from the 44 different calibers and loads shown on the January 13, 1995 price list, to 28 different loadings. For reasons unknown, most of the Swat loads in various calibers remained on that list, with the most obvious absence being the 9 mm Parabellum.
The few subsequent “Cassellberry” price lists I have do not show the load. My file on this company effectively ends at the turn of the century (2000), about when our store closed and I no longer had virtually automatic access to catalogs from this or any other company.
I hope the above information is of some help and interest. In a few minutes, I will send Joe Jones my picture for posting, which he will do when he is able to.