9mm Luger


#1

I have a Swiss aluminum case exp. 9mm Luger with the M 8 T 43 headstamp, nickel jacket steel core. The case is anodized blue, does the blue signify something special about the cartridge and is this anodized version scarce?
Thank You Carolyn


#2

hello
the blue aluminium case is for a “beschuss” swiss cartridge (proof testing)
i have the same in 7.65 para


#3

Carolyn, please wait for Lew.
There are only a few lots made. There are fakes on the market.

Rgds
Dutch


#4

Does anyone know if Lew will be back online soon?


#5

Hello Carolyn, I’m not the great Lew but maybe I can help you. Those 9 mm proof cartridges with aluminium supplied by Menziken are known with just a few dates, including M 8 T 43. Maybe you can post some pictures to compare it with an original round.


#6

Carolyn, Sorry for the delay! Kathleen and I, along with our son and granddaughter (age 8) have been in northern Utah skiing since Friday. We have had about 15-20 inches of new snow since we got here (Powder Mountain Ski Area). This is our granddaughters first ski trip and I haven’t been checking the forum (very slow connection here on top of the mountain).

To your question. As Fede and Dutch and the others have indicated, you have a Swiss proof load from the WWII era when the Swiss military produced aluminum cases. Only three dates are known (one in 1942 and two in 1943). A 4th 1943 date is known on a strange round which is clearly a pressure test round with a blue case, a hole in the side to align with the pressure test device (back then a copper crush cylinder) mounted into the side of the chamber, and a line scribed on the case to ensure the case hole aligned with the pressure test device.

Some of these rounds have been faked – usually the fakes have the wrong date on them. The only absoultly confirmed date (that I know of) is the 8 43 (August 1943) one you have. The confirmation is two or three known boxes-I have one in my collection. If someone has a box or a box photo of one of the other dated cases, please post it.

Some fakes may have been created from correctly dated ball loads, but as far as I know the case color of the fakes is never exactly correct. If anyone has a questionable round, post a picture and I will be glad to compare it to a legit load and give you my opinion.


#7

Here is a picture of the case and head I apologize for the quality but this is a new printer and my husband isn’t use to it yet. The blue on the actual cartridge seems brighter then how it appears in the pictures.
Thank You Carolyn