Artillerie Depot - ammunition making


#1

I search information about german Artillerie Depots making ammunition in:
Poznań (Posen)
Wrocław (Breslau)
Gdańsk (Danzig)
Szczecin (Stettin)
Kostrzyn nad Odrą (Küstrin/Cüstrin),

Dreyse
11.15 x 60R Mauser
7,92x57 M88/M98

Like this:
11.15 x 60R Mauser


http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12496


forums.gunboards.com

M88


http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13245

http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14154


http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13732


#2

Some Artilleriedepots were intended to manufacture rifle cartridges in case of mobilization.

Posen, Breslau, Königsberg, Danzig, Stettin, Hannover, Erfurt, Cöln (Köln), Coblenz (Koblenz), Mainz, Metz and Straßburg had a large set of equipment. During peacetime they manufactured 2 million cartridges every 2-3 years, to keep them trained in doing this. (Metz and Strassburg located in Alsace)

Cüstrin (Küstrin), Wesel and Ulm had a small equipment set and produced 250 000 cartridges each year.

That is what the regulation (DVE 260 of 1901) said about Patrone 88. I do not know to what degree this was actually done.

Edit: I forgot Berlin in the first list which had a triple equipment set compared to the others.


#3

Cases were supplied by the Cartridge Factory at Spandau, and also by Civilian Commercial contractors. Some Artillerie Depots also undertook reloading to a limited degree ( Mostly 11mm M71 and 71/84 cartridges, although reloading for Training was usually a unit-based task ( used as “Company Punishment”: due to the well known “dirtiness” of BP reloading).)

Packet reload labels of ADs have appeared here ( 1890s, 1mm M71/84 loads).

Doc AV


#4

Thanks for discussion :)

With attachment first is reconstruction box for ammo Dreyse made by Arsenal in Poznań (Posen), second is reconstruction label ammo M71 made by AD Posen in 1910.
I used for this reconstruction picture found in internet, that is not only fancy in head ;)
(German gothic is horrible to read maybe some letters is wrong)

[erase wrong picture]


#5

In “20 scharfe Patronen…” there is a superfluous h: you write "schharfe"
The “ch” is correctly set as a ligature, so you need not follow it by an additional h.

The long s at the beginning of “scharfe” and in “Posen” seems to be correct, but I am really not competent in its use. When I was in school, it had been long out of use already.


#6

My mistake of course :/
I am glad that somebody reads and analyses this :) thanks for turning attentions in this

maybe this be better:


#7

The one tricky point about the “long s” is that it is used in initial and medial positions but never as a final letter; the final s will be the conventional “s”. Jack


#8

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#9

Maybe is not exactly Artillery Depot but only old german Arsenal in my city Krotoszyn (Krotoschin) on street where I live :)

link to gallery:
http://s238.photobucket.com/user/PiotrBochynski/library/Arsenal%20Krotoszyn


#10

On some of the labels there is an additional “r” in what should be "Angefertigt"
Take it easy. Proofreading your own text is very difficult (as the countless typos in my posts in this forum prove.)


#11

wrong picture was erase from gallery , new is reloaded. Thanks one more.

How speaks : not to make a mistake only this what nothing does :D


#12

Arsenał Artyleryjski w Poznaniu / Posen Arsenal Artillery/Artillery Depot(?)

link to gallery
http://zabytkipoznan.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=378&Itemid=386


#13

Arsenał Artyleryjski w Szczecinie / Artllery Depot Stettin

http://encyklopedia.szczecin.pl/wiki/Relikty_arsena%C5%82u_z_kazamatami

http://encyklopedia.szczecin.pl/wiki/Brama_Odrza%C5%84ska


#14

Little surprise :)

Etiquette from box of ammunition M71 made by AD in Nysa/Neisse !!! (was not taken under attention to this times)


#15

List of Artillerie Depots from 1868

source:Armee-Verordnungsblatt, Tom 2; Kriegsministerium, 1868


#16

The document type to look for is titled “Rangliste”. A Rangliste basically lists all officers of the Prussian army and is arranged by the units they are assigned to. So you have a list of all institutions of the Prussian army, from the War Ministry down to regiment level. Special instututions like rifle factories or artillery depots are also listed, as long as officers serve there.
Ranglisten were issued every year until 1914.