"B.D. Crockart" gunmaker


#1

Do you know a gunmaker called “B.D. Crockart” who was in Perth, Scotland, at the beginning of the 2th century ?
Thanks
JP


#2

JP,

Yes, 33 - 35 County Place, they did three cartridges that I know of, Perth, Spot Finder & True Line, the later is the hardest to find.
Spot Finders are 10 a penny, well maybe a bit more :). Certainly available in 12 and 20 bore so I would assume 16 as well.


Also in orange.

Mike.


#3

therefore there were two Crockart :
One in Stirling and the other one in Perth ??
JP


#4

Different company. Crockart and Sons, Glengowrie (cartridges said Crockart and sons J. C & S) existed and they moved to Stirling and were then operating as D Crockart and Co. When they moved to Sterling the shells were labelled simply as Crockart and the trade names of The Grampion, The Crockart, Ejector and the Sterling were used.


#5

Hello Curtiss,
I am a little bite confused.
Could you put Yes or No at the end of each point ?

If I understand well we have two compagnies :

  1. B.D.Crockart who was in Perth, Scotland. Yes/No
    According to mike there were 3 names on the tube :
    1-a) Perth
    1-b) Spot Finder
    1-c) True Line

  2. Crockart & Sons who was in Glengowrie
    2-a) According to you the hstp was : J. Crockart & S.
    2-b) Have you the exact hstps ?

  3. After his last company moved to Sterling
    According to you the hstp was Crockart
    and the trade names were :
    3-a) The Grampion
    3-b) The Crockart
    3-c) Ejector
    3-d) The Sterling

thanks
JP


#6

JP,

Wind the clock back a bit, there are actually three (3) Crockart/s

1)
1). D. B. Crockart, Perth.
2). They did three cartridges (that I know of)
3). The Perth, The Spotfinder and The True Line.
(I am not saying that there maybe more but I know of these for sure)

2)

  1. D. Crockart & Son, Stirling.
  2. They did seven cartridges (that I know of)
    3). The Crockart, Brass Ejector, The Grampian, The Smokeless, The Stirling, The Unequaled and un-named.
  3. Again there maybe more?

3)

  1. J. Crockart and Son, Blairgowrie.
    2). They did just the one.
    3). J C & S (in a triangle).

Now is that clearer?

(Edited two typos.)

Mike.


#7

Thanks Mike

No it is not cleaner.
I think they are some mistakes.

Because you have many samples could you put regarding to each mark on the tube the hstp of the ctge you have., not hstp the people told you or the hstp you have read in a book.

  1. B. D. Crockart, Perth.
    Perth
    Stopfinder
    True Line

  2. D. Crockart & Son, Stirling
    The Crockart,
    Brass Ejector,
    The Grampion,
    The Smokeless,
    The Stirling,
    The Unequaled
    Unnamed.

  3. J. Crockart and Son, Blairgowrie.
    J C & S (in a triangle).

thanks
JP


#8

J.P.

Attached newspaper add dated 1939 for D.B. Crockart of Perth.

JimCROCKARTS%201939


#9

Most headstamps are simply Eley. But here is what I have in my collection of the two companies if these help at all:
Crockart%20%26%20Son%20orange%20black
CROCKART%20Stirling%20orange%20black
Crockart%20%26%20Son%20blue%20navy
CROCKART%20DB%20The%20Spotfinderorange%20black
Crockart%20Stirling%20Eley%20Eley%20no%2012