Biggest pinfire?


#1

Hi,

A while ago I had a topic about 4 ga pinfire shells.
I was just thinking, are there any bigger gauges made in pinfire shells?

Personally I have never heard of them, but who am I.

Regards rené


#2

[quote=“polman”]Hi,

I was just thinking, are there any bigger gauges made in pinfire shells?

Regards rené[/quote]

32 mm for example

jp


#3

P.S. This is not a real cartridge. Someone, sometime, made it.


#4

At least SFM made a 32mm shotshell for punt guns. Tardy Frères has a 30mm shotshell as well.


#5

Aaron, is there any info on the maker of the 31mm (hs) and about the gun it was used with? Purpose?


#6

ha…well, as mentioned under the images, “This is not a real cartridge. Someone, sometime, made it.”

It is just a big paper weight. As for the headstamp, some believe it is a rooster defecating, others think it is merely tool marks.


#7

Here is a bad picture of the 32mm shotshell:


#8

ha…well, as mentioned under the images, “This is not a real cartridge. Someone, sometime, made it.”

It is just a big paper weight. As for the headstamp, some believe it is a rooster defecating, others think it is merely tool marks.[/quote]

Thank you for the clarification as the “no real cartridge” left some room for interpretation (well, or the fantasy of us…).


#9

I think it would take a sick mind to interpret those markings as a defecating rooster. Sounds like something I would come up with. : - )


#10

Hi Everybody,

THanks for the input!!

I should have known about the 32mm, but didn’t.

Aaron, thanks for the picture!

Regards rené


#11

I don’t know the 30 mm shotshell from Tardy.
Any info ?
thanks
jp


#12

[quote=“Aaron”]Here is a bad picture of the 32mm shotshell:

[/quote]

Nice board !

Where is it located ? in France ??

jp


#13

René, besides the 30 and 32 mm cartridges by Tardy, Gévelot and SFM, there is also a British 2 bore cartridge made for a Chas. Osborne punt gun, but I have never seen an example. Years ago I obtained a 32 mm cartridge that was taken from a broken SFM board, which also included other rarities like the 8 mm “Petit” Gras and 10,15 mm Mauser-Koka. Regards, Fede.


#14

Hi Fede,

That 2 bore cartridge you are talking about, is it also a pinfire?
I have heard of 2 bore centrefire before.

Good for you that the board was broken!
It is a great opportunity to get such items.

Regards rené


#15

René, yes, it is a 2 bore pinfire monstrosity. The board was one of those unframed cheap models made of cardboard and was in terrible condition; there was nothing I can do but take out the cartridges and discard it. Regards, Fede.


#16

I forgot about that guy!


#17

Aaron, yes, that’s the gun. In spite of its markings and what the book says, it was not made by Chas. Osborne but by Tolley, and this is their typical design with a recoil absorber device. Also, its caliber is mentioned in some sources as 2 gauge and in others a No. 2, which is a different and smaller caliber. On the other hand, the pinfire punt guns by this manufacturer are listed in their catalogs as made with bores of 1 1/8", 1 1/4" and 1 1/2". For this reason, I’m not sure which is the exact caliber of the gun in the picture.


#18

Aaron,
I have asked you two questions but you have not seen them.
Here there are again.

  1. you said, and Fede confirmed, that Tardy has made a 30 mm pinfire shotshell.
    Any picture ? Any document ?
    If not, where is this info coming from ?

  2. You put a picture of a nice Gevelot board.
    If it is not yours, where is this picture coming from ?
    France ? Spain ?

Thanks
JP


#19

JP,

The board is in the US, owned by an IAA member. I hope to buy it some day. =)

I know someone who has the 30mm Tardy Frères one. I will try to get pictures.


#20

[quote=“Aaron”]JP,

The board is in the US, owned by an IAA member. I hope to buy it some day. =)

I know someone who has the 30mm Tardy Frères one. I will try to get pictures.[/quote]

Hello,

There is (or was) a Gevelot board in France. I will try to compare it with the one you show. Anyway it is very scarce. And interesting !!

I knew there was a 30 mm Tardy puntgun shell but I thought it was CF and not PF.

Thanks.
JP