C.I.P. standards


#1

In corresponding with a non member about the 17 Aguila/PMC just noticed that there is no C.I.P. symbol on the boxes. This makes me think that no specification standard has been set up for this cartridge/chamber yet.

Can somebody tell me date wise when the C.I.P standards came into being and who was involved in setting the organization up?

Gourd


#2

An outstanding article on proofing and it’s history can be found on the Birmingham Proof House’s web site: http://www.gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html

As well there is a thorough Wikipedia entry on the Commission Internationale Permanente: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission … Portatives (the forum is being twitchy, you’ll need to cut and paste that)

CIP’s web site: http://www.cip-bp.org/


#3

christopherb - I have viewed those websites. Recently though I tried to find the C.I.P. pressure ratings for the 9x18 cartridge and couldn’t find it on line.

After a series of emails with Carlo Fiocchi (of Fiocchi Ammunition) I learned the C.I.P. pressure for 9x18 is 1,600 bar.

Is there a place where we can look online to see the complete list of C.I.P. pressure limits? If I’ve missed it in the threads you posted could you direct my efforts.

Thanks.


#4

You’ll find the 9x18 under the above mentioned website www.cip-bp.org
telechargement… tdcc.


#5

[quote=“h_broemel”]You’ll find the 9x18 under the above mentioned website www.cip-bp.org
telechargement… tdcc.[/quote]

I don’t read that language and can’t see how to use the search feature.


#6

Give Google Translate a whirl:
translate.google.com/translate?h … f%26sa%3DG


#7

You have not to be able to read the site - simply open that page and look for tdcc and telechargement as I told you.
Here is the complete link:

cip-bp.org/index.php?id=tdcc-telechargement


#8

I downloaded the Zip file, it was well worth it.