Can anyone identify this proectile? (Part 2)


#1

This is the second image showing the hole in the base. Thanks again,

New River Valley Outdoorsman
www.nrvoutdoors.com


#2

Is any part magnetic?


#3

No. The entire thing is solid bronze (perhaps brass) with no ferrous components at all. Someone has suggested it may be for a Nordenfelt gun; and/or it may be “ornamental” in nature. I doubt that the latter idea is correct. I know nothing about Nordenfelt guns, though.

Thanks,

TC


#4

Not being steel or iron makes it much less likely to be a projectile, especially with rotating bands & a crimping groove.

I don’t see any threads in the hole but the base being turned like that is also very unusual & there is no reason / giain to do it, so why bother to go to the expense, unless it can be seen? Also the hole being without threads makes attaching a fuze or tracer container very difficult.

My thoughts are top of a gate or exterior lamp post (no rust or paint needed) or use as something ornamental.

PS I think this photo could have been attached to your first post as a reply instead of as a separate thread.


#5

Not being steel or iron makes it much less likely to be a projectile,
especially with rotating bands & a crimping groove.

With or without?

I don’t see any threads in the hole

There are none.

the base being turned like that
is also very unusual & there is no reason / gain to do it, so why
bother to go to the expense, unless it can be seen? Also the hole being
without threads makes attaching a fuze or tracer container very difficult.
My thoughts are top of a gate or exterior lamp post (no rust or paint
needed) or use as something ornamental.

Hadn’t thought of that, but if it were a gatepost newel, the grooves in
the base couldn’t be seen anyway?

PS I think this photo could have been attached to your first post as a
reply instead of as a separate thread.
I tried, but as a new poster I’m limited to one picture per post, so it
had to go as two separate ones.

Thanks,

TC


#6

Howdy TC
The with or without ?, = no iron or steel, = not at all likely a bullet.

It does appear the have a rotating band (the 2.13" band), which is so close to the base dia, as not to perhaps be needed? But???

And it certainly looks to have a case-crimping groove. So it has points on that.

As for a newel or decorative post. By being decorative the hole would take a post (a bit of solder would secure it. As to a lack of solder in yours perhaps it was an extra or a not completed project?) & the grooved base is still visible. Nothing says it has the base has to fit flush with it being decorative. Why bother to machine or cast that feature & then cover it up?

I don’t know of any shell of this diameter or any other dia, that has a grooved base. Not that I’ve seen everything.

Still a neat object & would make a great paperweight.


#7

The with or without ?, = no iron or steel, = not at all likely a bullet.

Hmmm…why could there not be brass/bronze projectiles?

And it certainly looks to have a case-crimping groove. So it has points
on that.

Would that be the knurled area in the “waist”?

Still a neat object & would make a great paperweight.

Actually, we use it for a doorstop.

It came in a house my father bought in 1961 complete with contents. He
bought it from an elderly couple who in turn had bought it (in the
’30’s) from an old lady who lived there until she was 100+. That house
had all the detritus accumulated by both families in the course of its
existence. The property itself was initially settled in the mid 18th
Century, and this was probably the second house built on the site, about
1810.

We always referred to this thing as “The Bullet,” but it may easily have
been something else.

Thanks,

TC


#8

A round or pointed cast steel or iron ball would likely be much cheaper to make. Lead being the easiest.
There may well be some brass/bronze bullets, but from the US revolutionary war iron / steel was the metal of choice for cannon. It’s relatively cheap, resists the heat from the burning gasses /explosion (if BP) better & is strong.

Items in the house may be from 100 + years back, however it could have come into the house the day before your father bought it in 1961, yes?

It certainly does look like a bullet, & as I said pretty cool.

The what looks to me like a case crimping groove, I’ve marked with a red arrow.


#9

There may well be some brass/bronze bullets, but from the US
revolutionary war iron / steel was the metal of choice for cannon. It’s
relatively cheap, resists the heat from the burning gasses /explosion
(if BP) better & is strong.

All good points. I’m learning…

Items in the house may be from 100 + years back, however it could have
come into the house the day before your father bought it in 1961, yes?

Well, perhaps, but not very likely.

The what looks to me like a case crimping groove, I’ve marked with a red
arrow.
OK, I get that. I suppose the knurled area is another indication it may
be some sort of ornamental object. I’ll have to see if I can find out
anything about “bullet shaped newels” on the Internet.

TC