Canadian WWII .455 MkVI "half case" battlepack


#1

How common are these? And may I see an inside carton, it came empty ?








#2

Boy, that’s a lot of box just to hold 240 Revolver Cartridges!


#3

John, it is actually quite small (and cute), a miniature of a real battle pack.


#4

Vlad - I knew from the quantity that the box would be small, as even the individual cartridge packets are small. I was really commenting on the practice of making wood crates that hold such a small quantity of ammunition. Seems like a very inefficient idea from the standpoint of raw materials and labor utilization, as well as shipping. I am sure they had their reasons, though.


#5

Hi Vlad,

Here’s the crate I have. I can’t comment on the rarity, but they were built to last!

Paul


#6

A couple of 1940’s era .455 MK VIz boxes. I can’t say 100% for sure that these would have been packaged in either of the above battle packs but they are typical Canadian packaging.


#7

[quote=“PetedeCoux”]A couple of 1940’s era .455 MK VIz boxes. I can’t say 100% for sure that these would have been packaged in either of the above battle packs but they are typical Canadian packaging.

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You are correct Pete. That’s they type of box that would have been in the small crate. The .380/200 were packaged in a similar fashion.


#8

What you have is what was known as a “Half Case” pack, specifically developed originally for the Royal Navy. The Crate is Half the volume of a standard rifle Cartridge crate. The size eventually was carried over for all Pistol ammo deliveries, at least Revolver ammo (smaller Usage); The 9mm cartridges were supplied in a Standard (Rifle) Type crate.

“Half Cases” are quite uncommon these days…

Nice Canadian Example. DC ( Dominion Cartridge) …CIL-Dominion commercial Factory, Boxer Primed ammo, Nitro load.

Doc AV


#9

Here is mine… dated from the 1930’s







#10

For interest here is my .380 box as well.





#11

Missing Something - Is the number on the outer label of the .455 inch H558 or H588 please?

Pete - can you see any difference on the labels of the two .455 packets you show? One is H601A and the other H601B.

Thanks
TonyE


#12

Tony
No differences other than color of the label & both say I.G. CANADA.
I do have another with a Nov 20 1944 date which is a “H. 601 A.” while the Dec 30 44 box shown, does not have period after the “A”. Probably just a different type setter at work as there is also a space between the H. & the 601.


#13

[quote=“TonyE”]Missing Something - Is the number on the outer label of the .455 inch H558 or H588 please?

Pete - can you see any difference on the labels of the two .455 packets you show? One is H601A and the other H601B.

Thanks
TonyE[/quote]

Its

H.588
6M - 9-31 (5091)
H.Q. 1622-12


#14

many thabks!

Regards
TonyE


#15

[quote=“PetedeCoux”]Tony
No differences other than color of the label & both say I.G. CANADA.
I do have another with a Nov 20 1944 date which is a “H. 601 A.” while the Dec 30 44 box shown, does not have period after the “A”. Probably just a different type setter at work as there is also a space between the H. & the 601.[/quote]

The only significant difference that I can see is that one label has the letters “DC” and the other has “DI”. As these letters are part of the original printing, not rubber stamped later, I suppose that the print blocks being different would account for the different label number.


#16

I noticed that label difference, “DI” being “Defense Industries” and “DC” being “Dominion Cartridge (Co.).” I was rather surprised that the DC label was later than the DI label though.


#17

opps !