Cooppal powder


#1

Is there something special to this box and its content or is it just a box out of a dozen with 9mm from FN, loaded with Cooppalpowder which was once a famous Belgian powdermaker for over two centuries? The owner told me he thought it could be rare.

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#2

ducjans -I cannot speak to the rarity of this box except to say I have not seen it before. I have about a dozen of this style FN 9 mm Para boxes in my collection, but suspect that is barely a start. It certainly is NOT a common box.

I have a similar label that mentions Coppal Powder. The layout is a little different, with the main descriptive line of print reading “25 Cartouches, Cal.9 mm, Pour Pistolet G.P., et Mitraillette.” It is on four lines which I have separated with commas, although they are not on the actual label. (English:
25 Cartridges, Cal. 9 mm, for Pistol Grande Puissance, and Submachine gun"). Your label and mine are the only types I have seen that use the “Grande Puissance” initials “G.P.” in the caliber designation. (English: High Power).

My label, which is only the box top removed from the box, unfortunately, is printed for "F.N. LOT 18 d/ 53. The very bottom line is somewhat unusual for an FN box of this type - “Cde S.A.A./ N° AP, 34/53/140” I do not know the meaning of that line of print.

It is a really nice label. Thanks for sharing it with us.


#3

Well thank you for the response, Mr Moss. As a beginner, it is rather difficult to distinguish common and scarce. And of course, please forgive me, it should be
Grande Puissance as French is my second language.


#4

Concerning the box label, shown by duqjans, since it only lists “G.P.” (Grande Puissance) I assume this indicates a contract loading specific (bullet & powder weight) for us in 9mm pistols.

Or would this be considered a “generic” loading by FN for the general military/defense market? Specifically oriented to those countries speaking French as a universal language?

Brian


#5

Wasn’t this box intended for Belgian military and/or police use? That string of numbers and letters suggests, to me at least, a designator for a contract let for the contents of the package. Jack


#6

Keep in mind that Grande Puissance (GP) is simply the commercial French name for the FN High Power pistol, as John already wrote.


#7

I am sorry for the mistake in the spelling of Grande Puissance. I know better. I am a bit preoccupied these days, but where I cam up with leaving the last two letters off of Grande, I simply don’t know. The only 9mm Pistol I own as a serious pistol (I also have a P08 but I don’t think anyone really takes that pistol seriously, other than for collecting, since 1935) is an FN GP, and is the only 9mm Para-caliber pistol worth consideration as a weapon, in my view. But then, that is another story and argument that I suppose doesn’t belong here. I do not like to make spelling errors when using foreign words - it is insulting to people I think very highly of. In English, I don’t care much, since most of it is just being in a hurry all the time, and trying to type too fast.

thank you for correcting me, and I mean that sincerely. I have destoryed the evidence by correcting them in my original entry. :-)


#8

John, I once had the opportunity to fire a High Power courtesy of Canadian Forces in Germany in a competition. Be assured that I totally agree with you that among the pistols of the 1930s it is the best pistol from a practical standpoint among the many designs originating around that time. It is pleasant to shoot, it shoots very well, and the large magazine capacity comes in handy.


#9

Yes, quite possible it might be some Belgian inner contract as the label shows also a dutch word -buskruit- (gunpowder) where Cooppal delivered the powder. But destination looks still unknown as for armydelivery, it might be indicated with the abbreviation ABL (Armée Belge-Belgisch Leger). Belgian Gendarmerie-Rijkswacht (national police until 2001) had for many years the GP as standard service-weapon and as Mr Moss already stated, it is an outstanding pistol. But I do not know whether the Rijkswacht used it already in 1957.


#10

Don’t know if it helps but here is a .30-06 box of the same era but different powder.