Here are some interesting things we are likely never to see show up in the US, or in Europe.
The first one was posted by DK in https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/twin-pines-pistol-ammo-philippines/16544 but the image disappeared (at least on my computer) so I have reposted it.
in 2015,DK said:
“I just stumbled across some photos showing some oddball pistol ammo marketed by, and seemingly loaded by a brand called Twin Pines in the Philipines. http://twinpines.com.ph/ They seem to be a sporting goods shop selling guns, ammo, and accessories with multiple locations across the Philippines.”
A similar round is pictured on the Dagny Dagger Ammo site:
The intro says:
Dagny Dagger AP Ammunition Motivation
The first Atlas Arms concept in development, the Dagny Dagger project will develop a new type of legally-unrestricted handgun ammunition which in 9mm Luger is able to penetrate all soft armor and some rifle-rated hard armor ( yes, it is possible ). This will allow citizens the first legal access to armor-penetrating ammunition since 1986.
The projectiles are intended to be more readily home-manufactured than traditional AP ammo, and all research and data including Ghost Gunner code will be released open-source. The work will begin on 9mm Luger with future plans for Dagny Dagger loadings in 10mm/.40SW, 5.56, .308, and possibly 5.7. The Dagger will also debut APHP (Armor-Penetrating Hollow Point) bullets, a novel projectile design which boasts superior armor penetration while expanding and fragmenting on soft, unarmored targets for multirole performance. "
Has anyone seen either of these rounds or anything similar