Dutch .30-06 Blank


#1

Can anyone tell me about a Dutch bulleted blank?
-Aluminium case
-Black wooden bullet
-Hstp NWM\57.30

Was it to be used as a rifle grenade cartridge or noise making blank?
Any details on the load?

Nick


#2

I have the aluminum cased round listed as a noise blank and the grenade cartridge with a 6-point rose crimped mouth. I don’t have any details on either one.


#3

Thanks mate. You don’t happen to know the official designation of it do you?


#4

Nick

It is a nois making blank

This is the original box

100 cartridges blank for 7,62 mm

NWM =Nederlandse Wapen en Munitie fabriek


#5

Phil

The grenade blank with the red colour was used for the MECAR rifle grenade and the red colour was only a indentification for the soldier.

and the box with German language

regards
gyrojet


#6

gyrojet

Thanks for posting pictures of the labels for the 2 Dutch rounds.
Interesting information!

Phil


#7

Note that the bullet color of the aluminum-cased blank is actually blue. Worn bullets sometimes have such a dark blue remnant reminaing on the wood that they look black. I could be wrong - Harrie could tell us - but I don’t think any of them were really black.

John Moss


#8

John

Yes the aluminum-cased blank is blue, as you can see on the pict…

regards
gyrojet


#9

Gyro, if you have a spare aluminium cased one…;-)


#10

Chris I think I have one for you !!

regards
gyrojet


#11

Gyro

Would “Patronen, Losse, Von 7,62mm” translate as “Cartridge, Noise, of 7.62mm” or “Cartridge, Blank, of 7.62mm” or…?

Nick


#12

[quote=“falcon5nz”]Gyro

Would “[color=#BF0000]Patronen, Losse, Von 7,62mm[/color]” translate as “Cartridge, Noise, of 7.62mm” or “Cartridge, Blank, of 7.62mm” or…?

Nick[/quote]

That means: Cartridge, blank 7,62 MM

cheers
René


#13

Cheers mate

Nick


#14

[quote=“gyrojet”]Chris I think I have one for you !!

regards
gyrojet[/quote]

Great, see you next meeting.


#15

Here is a selection of dutch grenade / blank cartridges

Headstamps [color=#BF0000]mouth sealing[/color]
WRA 45 [color=#BF0000]silver seal[/color]
FN 51 [color=#BF0000] brown wax seal[/color]
NWM 2-5-67 [color=#BF0000]brown wax seal[/color]
NWM .30 59 [color=#BF0000]silver seal[/color] red cartridge bottom
AYR 54 [color=#BF0000]silver seal [/color] red cartridge bottom (made by/in Norway for Holland ?)
NWM .30 59 [color=#BF0000]silver seal[/color]
NWM .30 57 [color=#BF0000]wooden bullet[/color]

if anybody has boxes for dutch blanks/grenade cartridges for trade, pls let me know

cheers
René