Bruce - Unfortunately, I cannot be at St. Louis. Frankly, if I saw that item at a gun or cartidge show, at a reasonable price, I would buy it myself knowing it is a fake. I hope no one confuses my opinion of it as being of the idea that I don’t think anyone should want it or like it. I, too, like oversize and miniature cartridges, and am fortunate enough to have even a few from the Swiss Master, Mr. Crottet, in my collection. In fact, I did not let my three 7.9 x 57 (Actually 4 x 28.5 mm) minatures, with miniature stripper clip and two miniature boxes, go when I divested myself of my 7.9 collection. As long as one is aware of the fact that a round is not what some would claim, and willing to pay the price to obtain it, for whatever personal reason, I don’t see how anyone can have any particular problem with that. Woodin Laboratory has a collection of fake rounds, kept for reference, and I find it one of the more fascinating aspects of the collection. One day I will photograph my miniatures - not a world-class collection by any means but perhaps interesting anyway - and put the photo the forum, along with another photo of the few double-size rounds I have. I consider none of those to be fakes, as they were either “purpose-driven” rounds made for presentation, and represented to be exactly what they are by the manufacturer, or they were made by a friend of mine for my personal use and with the knowledge that he made them; that is, that they were not acquired from some outside source. No matter, as I said, given the opportunity under the conditions previously stated, I would have acquired the fake “DWM” oversize 9 mm for my own collection.