Early Percussion & Patent Ignition Cartridges


#1

Does anyone know who actually made the following cartridges:

.50 GALLAGER CARBINE with drawn brass case.

MAYNARD, MODEL 1865 CARTRIDGES

MAYNARD, MODEL 1873 CARTRIDGES

.56 BILLINGHURST REQUA MITRAILLEUSE

.42 CUP-FIRE

.50 CRISPIN LONG (and other Crispin’s)


#2

Per Buttweiler catalog Vol. XII, Number 1, Lot 91, a .31 Crispin: “Believed to have been produced by FITCH, VAN VECHTEN (who held patents on the machinery necessary to prime the case)” Subsequent lots of a .44 Crispin and .50 Long are also attributed to FVV.

Rich


#3

Suydam in his book “U.S. Cartridges and Their Handguns” on page 34 says that Ethan Allen Co. probabily made Crispins as well as Lip Fire and Tit Fire cartridges.


#4

.50 GALLAGER CARBINE with drawn brass case… Frankford Arsenal and Richardson & Overman of Philadelphia

MAYNARD, MODEL 1865 CARTRIDGES… Frankford Arsenal and Pitman

.56 BILLINGHURST REQUA MITRAILLEUSE… H.P. White Co.

.42 CUP-FIRE Don’t know, but I think the smaller ones were made by American Metallic Cartridge Co. and Phenix Cartridge Co. (going on memory here).

The information on the Gallager, Maynard and Reque comes from:

"Handbook of Civil War Bullets and Cartridges"
James E. Thomas & Dean S. Thomas, Thomas Publications, Gettysburg PA. 1996

and

"Small Arms and Ammunition in the United States Service, 1776-1865"
Col. Berkeley R. Lewis U.S. Army Ord. Corp, Smithsonian Institution, Washington D.C. 1956, reprint 1960.


#5

There have been very few forum post on early cartridges. Maybe someone could post photos of the items discussed above so that visitors unfamiliar with them might get an idea of what is being discussed. A couple of words about what made them different, or why they were made wluld be helpful as well.


#6

Good Idea John. I will give it a shot:

1st row L-R: 50 Gallager Carbine, 50 Smith Carbine and 50 Maynard, these rounds are Poultney’s patent. The case was made of brass and paper with a perforation in the base.

2nd row L-R: 50 Gallager Carbine drawn brass case, 50 Smith Carbine rubber case and 50 Maynard (1863 model) drawn case with base disk soldered on.

3rd row L-R: 54 Burnside drawn case (the swell around the bullet held lubricant) all of the above rounds required a percussion cap for ignition, 15mm Pin fire, the hammer of the firearm would drive in the pin firing an internal cap, 12mm Perin thick rim an early center fire (this one is inside primed), 38 Colt Thuer an early center fire design to circumvent Smith & Wesson