DK, My first box is almost identical except:
- The “MS” is more distinct and stamped directly over the St-Hulse
- The manufacture date is 10.2.61, so about 40 days earlier than yours
- “3/7” instead of “11/10”----Does anyone know the meaning of these numbers???
- The inspector stamp (I think that is what it is) is 27 over 04 instead of 21 over 04.
I obtained this box sometime before 1987 based on it entry into my database.
I have another box which I obtained at about the same time which appears to be later than yours but the stamps are 26.5.61, 18/5 and 21 04. so this would be about two months later than yours.
My cartridges are water stained and not as nice as your. Good find. This round is only known with the 61 date and have not seen any indication of earlier production. All boxes are for the earlier steel case production and overstamped for brass cases. The two ball variations I have documented differ only by one having a three stab bullet crimp while the other has no such crimp. There is also a red base proof round. This round came from a box like the ones we have but overstamped BESCHUESS. It also has a three stab bullet crimp.
There is also a gray lacquered steel case load by MWK, but only known with a 57 date (hst: 04 57 in large ltrs). The box is in a German collection and is simply stamped in purple on the brown box
9.00 ST 12/3
The only other 9mm P08 production I know of by MWK is a brass washed steel case ball round headstamped “04 85” in very small letters. This looks like a brass case and I have only encountered the single example. My initial reaction was that it was probably a cut down 7,62T round but the case mouth is brass washed and it has a very nice red cms and pa. If someone has more insight into this round, please let me know.
The '57 load has an oaw of 157gr while the brass case loads (proof and ball) are 167gr indicating both have mE bullets. The steel case '85 load weighs 177gr which means it is likely a lead core bullet.
DDR production of 9mmP seems to have been very limited both in quantities and years of production. These boxes show up pretty often in Europe but not very often in the US. Many, many years ago I was told that there was 05 production but I don’t believe it and have seen absolutely no evidence of it.