EBAY policy change to firearms and ammunition parts!


#1

Hi all,

I received an email from a well known Dutch collector, and I guess some of you did too.
Beginning with mid-August, Ebay want


#2
  • Joseph Stalin [1879-1953] couldn’t write a better anouncement! I gave up on E-Bay earlier this year, I had my own reasons to do it. Liviu 08/09/07

#3

Stalin’s mind is present in our countries for a long time already, most people just do not notice. (I do not mean E-Bay)

On the other hand keeping this stuff off E-Bay may normalize the prices to some extent again.
Have seen too much overpayed and overpriced BS on there to appreciate the real good items having been up there.


#4

[quote=“EOD”]
On the other hand keeping this stuff off E-Bay may normalize the prices to some extent again. Have seen too much overpayed and overpriced BS on there to appreciate the real good items having been up there.[/quote]

You are right there, I have seen people pay some ridiculous items for inert ammunition. Like someone payed over


#5

Ebay policy is capricious and varies between countries. I have spent MANY hours arguing with these folks about inert ammo specimens. I have over the years had items cut fully in half for display killed as “firearms” and PHOTOGRAPHS AND CDs killed as 'fireworks".

The best was being advised by ebay USA that they could not run inert specimens because “they could not be demonstrated to be inert” and having ebay UK tell me that they could not prohibit specimens “because they could not prove that they were live”.

Run the word :"inert"
in an ebay search and you will continue to find such items far into the future.

The fact is that ebay does not police its site. It relies upon users to REPORT violations . They then look at the report and decide what to do. Often the person looking at the “report” has not idea what they are looking at but does have what appears to be a system wide prejudice against 1)guns,2)weapons in general,3)military items and 4) collectors of military items.

They do , however , maintain the world’s largest pornography site.

If one has enemies or disgruntled past buyers or sellers in their history the chance of having items “reported” is very high. The shortest time which it took for ebay to kill one of my sales was 12 minutes.

Other users store your name in the “favorites” section and are advise as soon as you list something. If they want to make trouble they can do it fast.

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING AND UNDERSTAND - IT IS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE ANY EFFECT UPON EBAY !

We are all very small potatoes. One of my good friends is a “power seller” who usually has 1800 or more sales on ebay. He sells $50,000+ per month and has a direct satellite link to ebay. YET, they think nothing of killing all of his sales without notice if someone “reports” a swastika on a military collector book which he sells.

This is no BS. I have seen it happen and image how much work it is to list thousands of sales. Once they kill them they are GONE. Before he and others learned to back up their information it cost them thousands of man hours by this foolishness.

I have spoken to first class lawyers about a "class action"suit . A waste of time.

Remember “it is their sandbox and they can play like they want”.

This the advise of the most experienced ebayer who I know who has made millions of sales.

It is not fair,it is not just, it is inconsistent, BUT it is their game run by their philosophy.

GOOD LUCK !


#6

[quote=“CSAEOD”]Ebay policy is capricious and varies between countries.
![/quote]
On ebay France, you are not allowed to put ctges or shotshells (even inert or empty cases)

Furthermore even a knife, a bayonnet, a gun toy, reloading tools and so on, are forbidden.

They even close my pages where they were only EMPTY BOXES of (Guess !! ctges ?? shotshells ?? primers ?? no!) paper corks for shotshells !!!

JP


#7

That is harsh and it looks like the way ebay here is going too.


#8

This is why we have E-Gun in Germany.

Here the ammo section:

egun.de/market/list_items.php?cat=449


#9

An interesting bunch of gear. Thanks.


#10

Trust and safety policy team, what a load of old BS and BLks. Like any other big organization, they can certainly invents some crap names, sounds similar to our Health and safety here in the UK, big titles no brains.


#11

Ebay UK told me they “have to” run inert items if so stated because they can not determine that they are NOT inert. That fellow from Kent has been running inert gear for years. Some great stuff which auctions would have been killed within minutes if run on my account.


#12

Several petitions are circulating on this subject. I received 2 today already. I hope that the sponsors feel better with the effort beacuse it is a total WASTE OF TIME. Gun and ammo folks are less than a flea in a herd of elephants when it comes to ebay.

Good luck.


#13

I had eBay cancel auctions of mine for inert ordnance items which I had previously purchased on eBay. Such fairness is rarely found!

I saw in the news this week a man killed his wife and then himself with a nail gun. I wonder if he purchased the nail gun off eBay.
Ebay better think about those to.

Ammo collectors make up a very small percentage of the sales there.
I doubt that they will ever care to much about us collectors.
Hopefully the new policy will help promote the other sites like GunBroker & Auction Arms.


#14

Or, go forward with starting our own “ebay”.


#15

[quote=“SHELSRUS”]I had eBay cancel auctions of mine for inert ordnance items which I had previously purchased on eBay. Such fairness is rarely found!

I saw in the news this week a man killed his wife and then himself with a nail gun. I wonder if he purchased the nail gun off eBay.
Ebay better think about those to.

Ammo collectors make up a very small percentage of the sales there.
I doubt that they will ever care to much about us collectors.
Hopefully the new policy will help promote the other sites like GunBroker & Auction Arms.[/quote]

I worked seriously for about a year to try and bring some common sense into ebay’s workings. This included buying items on ebay and trying to resell the same item. My auctions were killed and their answer was that they had missed the previous auctions due to the huge number of auctions which they handle. That is true, but they certainly had plenty of time and/or help keeping an eye on mine.

A dealer from the UK who ran lots or ordnance and still does told me that he had an “in” with ebay UK. Although he was a previously convicted felon with guns and ammo violation he was allowed for YEARS to sell and still does at last look.

Ebay did not like seeing its name connected with the Virginia Tech killings-very understandable- and they will not change their minds.

I stopped trying to sell hardware on ebay long ago. The other sites are a smaller market BUT they are growing.


#16

Hello, Great ammo fourm you have here. Finaly found the time to check it out!

Ebay… As CSA says there is nothing anyone can do about them. They are huge with seemingly no one person incharge but with many many helpers that can decide nothing. There is no reasoning, clear rational or logic. They just are.

If you can accept that “they are what they are” and can operate within the grey lines, then there are still treasures to be found and $$$ to be made.

Best regards

Liberty


#17

Ebay is in the process to cancel all my auctions on the cartridges !

The reason :
“The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale”

Michel


#18

Both Auction Arms and Gunbroker now have announcements on their home pages…“Welcome E-bay Users”…


#19

Has anyone noted a real effect?