Epervier & Courtier Shotshells

Thought the group might enjoy an Epervier 16 guage shotshell. These were metallic shells with a paper exterior. I was able to identify thanks to a 1900 catalog page posted by Aaron Newcomer back in 2014.



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Box for pink models.
Bsrg, Dan

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Thank you Dan. Great period item.

You should note these are rifled on the inside with three lands. Kind of hard to see in the catalog sheet.

They also exist in 12 and 16 bore, in both colors,

Great box labels.

Like this.
And to give it some strength there are inlays made of brass wire.

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Here is a scan from the 1912 edition:

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Hi
Hier the other in my storage so it’s similar in design …

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Bsrg, Dan

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Very nice labels!!
Never seen a 10 ga in reality. When there are pictures of them I like to see them.

Here are the ones in my collection.

The small one is a 28 ga and the green in the middle is 20 ga.

Regards rené

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Guys,

Another couple of pics showing the ball with pre cut grooves.

Jim

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Here are the ones from my collection

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Thanks for sharing Jim.
Can definitely see why they are considered rifle shot shells.

Jim Christian

mine, for whatever it’s worth

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Jim,

Yes the internal wires were not for strengthening the case, they were angled so as to impart a spin on the ball projectile. I have fired a few of these and it does not work !!!
The wires are just ripped out by the lead ball.

Jim

Better to change the name of the topic.
Because some ctges shown are Epervier, some (the ones with bullet) are Courtier
JP

Hi Jean Pierre,
Thanks for reminding us of the different names of these cases.

Is there a significant difference between the courtier and the epervier??
Or is the internal of the case the same??

Many regards rené

hello
the twists are different.

and i am surpised our british friend said he shooted some Courtier shells and they were not efficient.

Sure there were Courtier shells ?
What is the good powder ?
And the right gun ?

Because i have somewhere the tests made by sfm and it was ok .

jp

Thank you very much.
I will have a look at my specimens.

Regards rené

and you can see you have too kindsof epervier ctges
they were designed by Galand

the first kind are only tubes you can put in any ctge (there is a picture of the bx)
the second kind are the special cases you know
jp

Hi JP,
Do you happen to have an example of that tube you can show us?

Regards rené

no
drawing somewhere but no sample
jp