I just received a box of 9mm CT-2 trainers (should be green tip). I bought them online and they are supposedly the new ones. With this box, the vendor also sent me an Extreme Shock catalog which shows all of their ammo, and the lubricant that they also market. On one of the pages it showed “man marker” cartridges which looked just like Simunition. They look like 9mm at the top of the photo, but the literature says 7.8x21, I have never seen these before:
Also, the box that I received is the newer style Extreme Schock ammo box as far as what I am familiar with, and it had a date of Dec 2008 stamped in it, but the CT-2 cartridges which should be green tip are actually black tip. I thought they might actually be the EPR rds mistakenly put in the box, which are black, but the tips are different & smaller, so maybe they are CT-2’s? The headstamps were R-P brass, and not EXT-SHK also.