DK, Thanks for the tip on the black light. New info to me!
jonny, Based on DKs post, I just ordered a blacklight compact little flashlight for $20.
This is going in my “Go-To-Shows” bag. I think it will be a valuable tool. I have about a dozen labels I want to try it on.
They also offer screw-in black light bulbs for $9.
I agree that the label looks pretty shaky, but still worth the $5. Still, you gotta open it to check the hst. If it really is an RMS headstamp, then I would think harder about it being original.
Still, I think it has some great problems with this box:
- As I read it the powder is lot 1 of 1935. which means that the cartridges would be loaded after that date. That is pretty late for use of the “Hs” code. I don’t have any “RMS” headstamped cartridges or “Hs” marked boxes dated from after WWI. Maybe somebody has some in a caliber other than 9x19mm.
- There is no indication of a primer identification on the label. I cannot recall ever seeing a German Army style label with all the other component identifications, without the primer identification. The fact that it is missing could indicate that the information was copied from another box that had the bottom righthand corner missing.
- I checked 8 WWI “Hs” boxes in my collection and all have the day of the month stamped on a printed label which only contained the month and year. None had the date printed with the month and year like your label.
- I checked 5 boxes (all Polte) and one DWM (from 1935). All from 1925-1935 (i.e.) before your box could have been loaded. All had the load identified in the format “P28.7.L.35” and not in the WWI style like your box. I can’t imagine an Army style label after 1935 using the WWI format more than 10 years after a new format had been introduced.
- By 1925 the date and lot of case and bullet manufacture had been added to the Polte boxes, and to all Army boxes I checked between 1925 & 1935.
- The box measures about 5.5" x 6.25" on my screen or a L/H ratio of ~1.14. Not an obvious shape for a German 40 round box. European boxes of this era that I have had/seen are 10rds wide so a 10x4 round box would have a L/H ratio of ~1.6!!! Hard to fugure out how they may have packed the rounds in your box.
- Is that masking tape in your photo I see holding the box together under the label and box fold? Possible because Masking tape was invented by Richard Drew and 3M in the US in 1925. Would it have found it’s way into a box made in Germany in the late 1930s? It was intended for Masking, not for binding.
- Finally, the eagle stamp looks very wrong!
Now a guess! A gun collector had a nice Pre-WWII C96 he wanted to display and he wanted a box of ammo to go with it. He found a box of 7.62x25T with about 35 rounds (should be about the right shape) and the ratio should be roughly 1.2 -1.3 based on some of my 9mm boxes. He went on the internet and found a label from WWI (with a corner missing) and “created” a box of ammo for his gun. When other collectors laughed at him, he passed it on or gave it away and you found it.
Having said all this, I have been wrong many times before. Regardless, thanks for the intellectual challange on a Sunday morning.