German 1943 22lr "lang f


#1

Hi you all, I am a Spanish collector of 22 boxes and new in this great forum. I purchased some months ago several (full) boxes of the ammo in the pic posted. Boxes are in excellent condition and ammo too, one of them was not full and i fired a couple of round from my CZ75 Kadet kit to the 10 of the target at 25 meters. As I was told by the seller this ammo (and much more) was stolen in a atack of the partisans to a german convoy as his father told him.

Could anybody tell me something of this curious ammo?, I have a couple of boxes or rounds I could sell or change.


#2

Your box was made by


#3

Dutch: Was the ammunition produced with copper-clad steel cartridge cases identified as such on the box labels? JG


#4

Yes copper washed, brass plated, laquered ect… and used to train all Units of the Wehrmacht, SA, SS ect.
There are Rifles in .22, training barrels for the K 98k single shot or with magazine and PAK cartridges with .22 aiming barrels for the 3,7cm and 5cm PAK. Even Panzerfaeuste converted to fire .22 Zielmunition.


#5

Thank you Dutch, I thought this could be the reason but, what would be the reason for them in south France in 1944? who knows… maybe for the paks genkideskan mention.

I see you have several boxes of similar ammo, great collection, mine is a beginner one if compared.

Have yours the same headstamp? This is the opened box.


#6

By a coincidence, I have a scaled down 98k in 22 lr marked 'lang f


#7

[quote=“44RM”]Thank you Dutch, I thought this could be the reason but, what would be the reason for them in south France in 1944? who knows… maybe for the paks genkideskan mention.

I see you have several boxes of similar ammo, great collection, mine is a beginner one if compared.

Have yours the same headstamp? This is the opened box.

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As you see it is almost the same box label
The difference is only the Lfg. (lot#) and Rate (part of a lot)

Kind regards,
Dutch


#8

Extrage symbol Ducht, what could it be?

Dominic, it is a pitty laws don


#9

Hi,

The small headstamp logo is a small flaming bomb,
the trade mark called ‘Bombe’, used by DWM.

From the 1936 DWM Catalogue: