H&K G11 4.7mm and 4.9mm for Barrel testing


#1

This is my first own post so I want to say hello to everybody.

Here are 2 pieces out of my collection.
Reviewing the forum I did not find something similar. Therefore I want to share:

I received these cartirdges from a former employee of a German proof test house:
He told me that they used these cartridges for testing barrels for H&K during the developement of the H&K G11 rifle.

4.7mmx45:

Cartridge:
OAL: 57.8mm
Backside Diameter: 9.50mm
Case Length: 44,44mm
Primer: Boxer
Weight:178gn.

Bullet:
Type: FMJ; magnetic jacket, Lead core
Diameter: 4.90mm
Length: 22.74mm
Weight:50gn.

Box:

4.9mmx45:

Cartridge:
OAL: 57.23mm
Backside Diameter: 9.54mm
Case Length: 44.41mm
Primer: Boxer
Weight:170gn.

Bullet:
Type: FMJ; magnetic jacket, Lead core
Diameter: 4.91mm
Length: 22.08mm
Weight:51.6gn.

Box:

Regs

Jo


#2

Wow… how much I wish I had those!
Thank you very much for sharing. Most appreciated.

Best regards from hurricane Norway,
Ole


#3

Desperado,

Welcome to the forum!

Excellent pictures and information. Hope you will post more cartridge and box pictures in the future.

Here are a few post from the forum etc. that mention these two rounds (for information purposes):

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1261

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2596

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3788

cartridgecollector.net/49-x-45-dag

cartridgecollector.net/47-x- … perimental

Thanks again,

Brian


#4

FZ 65 PV
FZ = Fertigungszeichen (lot number). Actually the lot number is date of manufacture:

65 = day of the month (subtract 40 from this number): 25

P is the month: June (January is K, February L, March M, … December V)

V is the year: 1976 in this case
A is 1956, B - 1957 and so on, treating I and J as one letter. So this code repeats every 25 years, A may also mean 1981, 2006 etc., the correct year must be determined from other data.

I believe this interpretation of the letters originaly started in 1931, but the year came first:
N 71 M
would have been 1943, 31st of March.


#5

JPeelen,

Thank you for the interpretation of the lot number / date of manufacture code.

Brian


#6

Ein herzliches Willommen und viel Spaß hier !

( it was garman language )