Help needed with ID of rimfire with an unusual construction


#1

unknown-2

Dimensions in mm are:

Bullet: 8.75
Base: 9.00
OAL: 16.75
Case: 10.00
Rim: 10.04

The cartridge appears to be a rimfire and has no headstamp.

The dark part of the bullet appears to be soft, like lead, that can be marked with a finger nail. However; it does not feel particularly heavy.

Any help in identification would be greatly appreciated.

Sam3


#2

HI Sam

http://www.municion.org/9altres/9flobert.htm

Rufus


#3

Hi Rufus,
Many thanks indeed…and much appreciated.
Regards,
Sam3


#4

I know this kind of rimfire as French bosquette, cartouche à balle double culot. Maybe a French speaking member ( jeanpierre? ) can explain the meaning of double culot as it seems a regular term in French technical ammunition jargon.


#5

I’m going out on a limb as I know almost no French but I think it means double case or perhaps more accurately it refers to the 2-piece case construction


#6

“culot” means base
“double culot” means you have two bases.

At first glance if you look at the picture you can think we have a tube in copper and a base in brass.
But in fact the copper tube is going down inside the brass base and therefore is not a tube but a base also.
Here is a drawing
JP


#7

Very nice indeed, jeanpierre. Simply the best explanation!


#8

Hi jeanpierre,
Many thanks for your insight regarding; “double culot,”…greatly appreciated.

Would you be able to provide an approximate; ‘age range,’ for this cartridge, or any guidance on the manufacturer?

Regards,
Sam3


#9

as early as 1888
the drawing I show is from 1892
I think the ctge you have is french
jp


#10

Many thanks jp.
Sam3


#11

i forgot to tell you the term “Bosquette” is not related to a ctge but to the bullet
jp