Help with new pick ups. one russian one german 20mm shell?

I just got these two shells. one is Russian the other german. can anyone tell me what they are. I think the german one is an aircraft shell. the Russian one looks like it has little traces of blue paint maybe?



A quick answer-

#1 is most likely a German 20x80mm Oerlikon aircraft MG case, “wg” = Hugo Schneider AG, Altenburg plant, 41 = 1941

#2 is probably a primer for bag loaded artillery, for example a 155mm gun. Probably made in 1942. Russian?

Got to go!


In Russia these would be for weapons from 152mm and larger.

thanks for the info guys!