ID help -13mm projectile


Hope someone out there will can help. Please forgive if the pictures don’t turn out…still a bit new to all of this

It measures 2.056 " overall length ( 52.23mm)
Diameter at base of black cap is 0.537 " ( 13.65 mm) and is 0.205" high (5.2mm)
The diameter at the smallest points (bore diem.?) is 0.542 " (13.78mm)
The diameter of the rifling /forcing bands is 0.574 “
The diameter at the base of the red tipped nose is also 0.542” ( 13.78mm)

It weighs 50.9 grams or 785 grains. … ml?filters[user]=130731909&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=2 … ml?filters[user]=130731909&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=2 … ml?filters[user]=130731909&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0

14.5 mm x 51 mm mystery ammunition

Fred, this is the spotter-tracer projectile used in the German 14.5x51R subcaliber cartridge designed by DAG. Below is a picture of an example used by Argentina in a tank subcaliber.




fredh, we can’t see you images. In Photobucket ouy just copy the lowest of the 4 links given for an image and paste it into your posting here.

If Fede is showing the correct cartridge then it is the said 14.5x51R basing on the 14.5x20R M34 “Kleinskanone” as used in Germany before the war, in the 1950s-1960s it was developed into the 14.5x51R and found it’s way into many other armories.
Initially it was a cartridge for an artillery training system (howitzers) wich was basically a somewhat larger rifle action on a tripod and an artillery style sight system.
Later it evolved also into a subcaliber system (for tanks) which seems to be less wide spread than the artillery trainer.


Let’s try again…I just copy the URL fro the picture on Photobucket… … g.html?o=2


Yes, now we can access it.

If you choose the 4th link in the row “IMG” then it will display here automatically.