ID please on Pinfire shell

Hi, can anybody help me out on these two?

From the German? one I also have a pin fire shell, but without any print on the case wall.

Many regards rené

MFB manufacture d’armes franco belge (st Etienne and Liege)
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ES Edouard Schroeder, Liege

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Hi Jean Pierre,
many thanks for the answers!

rené